Speaker 1 00:00:11 Hello and welcome to the Roundhouse Podcast with Paul Sutro of Wichita State University Strategic Communications. Thank you for listening. Our guest today is Ken Laka. Ken is the play-by-play voice of Florida Atlantic Basketball and football on the F A U Radio Network. His Twitter is at K l V 1 0 63. So Florida Atlantic is one of the six schools which will join the American Athletic Conference on July 1st. F a u is located in Boca Raton. Uh, it joins the aac After spending the past 10 years in conference usa, F a u became an NCAA Division I school in 1993. It was a member of what is now the Atlantic Sun Conference. So Ken, we have to start with last season's Final Four. The owls were a story that I think, uh, anybody paying attention to college basketball and sports really, really followed, really fell in love with them. Uh, they won conference u s a last year, uh, earned a number nine seat in the NCAA tournament. They defeated Memphis, fairly Dickinson, Tennessee and Kansas State on their way to the Final Four before losing to San Diego State in the national semifinal as a broadcaster. What was that run like to be a, to be a part of?
Speaker 2 00:01:26 Yeah, Paul. Uh, thanks for having me. And it was incredible. It is that, that, that month of, of March was one of the best months of my life. And the, the reason was I, I mean, f a u going to the Final Four came completely outta nowhere, but f a u as far as its season was concerned. You knew right around January that something special was potentially coming for a program that had been an afterthought that had only made one other NCAA tournament appearance in its entire existence. But this is a team that was an NCAA net ranking darling, uh, all year last year, had an outstanding non-conference schedule that they aced, uh, started rolling their way through conference U s A, which was having its best year as a conference in the last decade. So you knew something special could happen, but the Final four, I mean, truly an incredible experience, but the entire month of March now, f a u, uh, there's no charter to be had with F A U, that basketball program, and I've been there 17 years.
Speaker 2 00:02:30 It's been commercial travel, commercial flights in airports, dealing with delays, doing all of that normal traveler stuff. So f a u clinched the regular season championship at home on a Saturday against U Chap, and then finished out the regular season at Rice, A team that's coming into the American as well, and at Louisiana Tech. From there, because there's no charter, f a u just drove into Dallas, uh, the conference tournament in Frisco and F A U spent three days in Dallas, practiced at S M U, and then on the Thursday before the tournament started, made the 30 minute drive to Frisco, uh, and ended up playing its three games in the conference, u s a tournament, winning that, uh, we got home just in time for the selection Sunday show. Found out that f a U was a nine seat against Memphis, and two days later hopped on another flight, went to Columbus, prepared for that.
Speaker 2 00:03:30 Uh, ended up beating Memphis in that first round, beating fairly Dickinson since Tennessee already had a day in hand of preparation. After dismantling Duke, the decision was made. We're not gonna go back to Boca Raton. We're just gonna take a commercial flight. We can't wait for the charter from Boca. There's no point. We'll take a commercial flight at Delta from Columbus to LaGuardia and go right into New York City and start preparing for the volunteers. Uh, so spent that entire week in New York City. We know what happened there, Tennessee, Kansas State, that victory. Came home for another couple of days and then went right to Houston for the Final four, myself, coaching staff, f a u players, that entire group, we were home for the month of March, three nights. We slept three nights in our beds in the month of March. But I tell you what, it was one of the single greatest experiences I've ever had. It was just us, and it was batting down the hatches, and it was prepare and enjoy in Madison Square Garden and the entire thing, the run was truly incredible.
Speaker 1 00:04:29 What is the, the big play or the moment or the celebration, what, what stands out from the NCAA tournament? What's, what's tops in your memory bank?
Speaker 2 00:04:38 Well, uh, the one that's from an individual play perspective, the one that stands out is still Nick Boyd's layup to beat Memphis in the opening round. And I know Memphis Plan, Memphis fans will still think that they got job by the officials on a held ball call, but it was fa u's outright hustle and f a u outworked Memphis. It was their hustle getting on the floor, uh, getting their hands in there to draw the tie up in a very critical tense situation, to get the hell ball and earn the inbound from the baseline. That gave F a u the opportunity perfectly drawn up inbound from Dusty Maye. The seal off underneath the hoop was beautiful. And then Nick Boyd with the finish to beat Memphis. That's the play that stands out most to me. And it's funny, f a u uh, prior to that, they did have a, a buzzer beater in Columbus back in 2016, beating Ohio State in overtime.
Speaker 2 00:05:36 So buzzer beaters and big wins in Columbus for this program. Uh, it had actually happened before, but then just the, the, the end of the Kansas State game. And you're there in New York City and you're there at Madison Square Garden, and you've just taken down the most electrifying player in the tournament in Marquis Noel, and you've hit big shot after big shot after big shot. And then Mike Forrest hitting all four of his brief throws in the final minute to seal it off. A guy who was nearly dropped out of the rotation after the first two rounds of the NCAA tournament, the lone senior on this team. And he comes through like that. And just the, the, the, the satisfaction of, I cannot believe that this team is going to the Final Four, and this team is four habs of basketball away from a national championship like that, that feeling, that satisfaction that will always, always, always be with me. And that has now come up, is my most memorable feeling from the tournament. Uh, it is, uh, luckily supplanted the buzzer beater lost to San Diego State, that feeling lingered for about a month. But, uh, it's the, the gratitude of being a part of that and standing on the floor, Madison Square Garden and the full appreciation of, I can't believe that this group just did this.
Speaker 1 00:06:55 So, F a U had been to the NCAA tournament once previously in 2002. How did this season happen?
Speaker 2 00:07:04 Well, it, the improvement of this basketball program has been coming on for the last four years since Dusty May got to Boca Raton. I've been doing this 17 years. I have called prior to Dusty May one, singular above 500 season, and that was in 2011 when F A U won the Sunbelt and then they were bounced in their opening game of the tournament and got blown out in the N I T by Miami. That was it. Everything else has been sub 500, absolutely no discussion of a conference championship, but under Dusty Maye, it's been nothing but above 500 seasons. And then you started to get above 500 in conference play each of the last three years. And that core stayed intact. Mike Forrest was fa u's first recruit under Dusty May, and him just wrapping up his college career, he's sort of the linchpin of this entire thing.
Speaker 2 00:08:00 But in the world of transfer portals in the world of these, uh, mid-major programs, getting their rosters poached, dusty May has done a great job of keeping the court together and then picking the right pieces, what he needs to maximize what this team can be a very exciting brand, a ball movement, basketball, uh, that's all predicated upon extremely stingy defense. And it all culminated in this year going into the season. Uh, I mean, the talker on the program was, Hey, they can win 22, 23, 24 games, be in the discussion with North Texas and U A B into the final couple of weeks of the season for a regular season championship. That was the, the consensus thought, I think, around the program. And the conference knew that FAU was bringing back a lot and there was a, a lot of improvement within the program, but then you get to 35 wins and you get into a blowout win in the conference USA tournament final over U A B into the NCAA tournament run. It definitely exceeded expectations, but it's not like this was an eight win team that suddenly came out of nowhere. It just wasn't noticed by the casual college basketball fan because it's F A U, it's Florida Atlantic. There's no history there. There was no reason to pay attention.
Speaker 1 00:09:14 Tell us more about Dusty May and how he was able to, to, to build that thing.
Speaker 2 00:09:21 I would go to war for this guy. I mean, he is as salt of the earth, as grinded out, and I'm a little biased towards him because I'm a mid-Westerner from the Chicago area. He is, while he's a, uh, uh, a, a Hoosier, he's a fellow mid-Westerner like myself. We have the same basketball sensibilities, grew up in Big 10 country, uh, have had fairly similar life experiences. Uh, and so this guy is a basketball junkie, uh, just a total basketball head. He, uh, is influenced by a trip he made overseas, uh, in the very, very, very early part of his coaching career where he took in a European tournament and fell in love with the style of play. And he's tried to incorporate that into his Dusty Mae brand of basketball. And this is a guy who has done everything. You know, Paul, we always hear about, paid his dues, paid his dues, paid his dues.
Speaker 2 00:10:25 It's one of the batches of honor in the coaching industry. Nobody's paid their dues more than Dusty Maye. He's gone from manager at Indiana under Bob Knight to low level assistant at U S C to first full-time assistant role at, uh, Eastern Michigan. Uh, going to U a b, bouncing around the country, is family coming with him? His young family just grinding away, uh, was an assistant under Mike White at Louisiana Tech. Mike White left to take the Florida job a number of years ago, and there was a huge internal push for Dusty May to get that job, to get the Louisiana Tech job. The players were, were petitioning for him to get the job. And Louisiana Tech went a different direction hiring Eric Conkle from Miami, who's now the head coach at Tulsa. That was a massive professional hit to Dusty May. He ended up going to Florida with Mike White and then finally got his first head coaching opportunity at F A U after Florida Atlantic parted ways with Michael Curry, the predecessor to Dusty Maine, Boca Raton.
Speaker 2 00:11:32 Uh, he has done everything. He has seen, everything he has coached everybody. He knows everybody. And he is, he's young, he's entered energetic. He is definitely a player's coach who can absolutely though put his fist down and say, alright, let's get to work. Let's lock in. Uh, oh. He is an unbelievable basketball coach. There's a reason why he was the hottest commodity on the coaching market, or at least one of them. And there's a reason F a U lacked him up to the 10 years because he has, it hasn't just been a rejuvenation of F A U basketball, there was no rejuvenation to have. It's sort of as if he's actually birthed f a u basketball.
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Speaker 1 00:12:54 So Dusty May is back, as you said, all five starters are back from that team that went 35 and four. Uh, I saw the ALS are number four in the CCBs off season, top 25, number nine at espn. How is this changing basketball on, on campus and in Boca Raton?
Speaker 2 00:13:13 Yeah, f a u for as long as I've been at f a u has been a football school. Howard Schnellenberger, lane Kiffin, that's where the majority of the attention goes. I mean, Paul, we're in South Florida, it's all football all the time down here, football over everything. Um, but now, I, I mean, I've got more people, even non f AAU fans, casuals, uh, Palm Beach County, uh, this area, you've gotta really make an impression to be thought about, uh, especially outside of season from a sports perspective. And I can't tell you how many people are, Hey, Ken, what is FAU gonna do next year? Basketball wise is Elijah Martin. Back is Nelly Davis back. Uh, it's amazing. It it is completely supplanted right now. The interest in football. Tom Herman, the new f a u football coaches has, has admitted it, Hey, we gotta ride this basketball wave.
Speaker 2 00:14:04 I never in my life thought I'd hear any football coach at f a U ever say anything like that. I almost passed out. So it's, it is, it, it's still out of body. And here you go over the preseason prognostications right now, number four, number nine, they're undoubtedly gonna be a top 10 team, uh, in both polls going in the next season. This is an f a u basketball program that was ranked for the first time ever in the top 25 in January, ever. Um, never even received votes previous to that until this past season. That was an accomplishment in and of itself. And so now the normalizing of, oh yeah, this is a top 10 team. Oh yeah, this is a team that is, uh, gonna be picked as the favorite to win the American. Uh, you've gotta, there's still that thrill there that there's still this, I can't believe this, but also, if you're gonna be a real basketball program and you know it at Wichita State, you gotta act like, all right, well, this is business. This is what this program is now, this is a top 10 basketball team, and it's gotta start to be normalized. Because if you start to treat everything like, oh man, a first, a first, a first, uh, I think you're gonna set yourself up for dis disappointment. You've gotta treat it as if, all right, this is expected. We've got the pieces
Speaker 1 00:15:22 Making the move to the American. How is that viewed on, on campus and what's the, maybe the overall atmosphere, the environment for athletics at F aau?
Speaker 2 00:15:34 Yeah, I, I mean, it's obviously extremely, extremely, um, impressed upon this fan base how important it is from a financial standpoint, from a, a visibility standpoint, from a profile perspective. It's massive. And I, I think that when you are able to come into a situation with a stable conference like this, with a phenomenal TV deal, especially on the football side, it is nothing but good. And over time, it is going to to pay off, not only pay off financially, but it's also going to pay off in terms of becoming one of the more recognizable brands in college athletics. So there's an excitement there, there's an anticipation about it. Uh, there's the ability to welcome in a new rival, make U s f, uh, a new rival in every single sport. That's gonna be an awful lot of fun. There's being able to go up against, uh, the Wichita states, the Memphis's of the world, and be able to capitalize off of that.
Speaker 2 00:16:43 I mean, think about it, Paul, in real time, f a u lived this last year, F a u went into the NCAA tournament with 30 wins in tow and with a regular season championship and with a conference tournament championship and a top 15 net ranking, and still could only muster a nine seed because of some preconceived notions about the conference they came from in conference U usa, I promise you. Same profile, same resume. F fa U came in onto the American. That ain't a nine seed. So, uh, they, there are a multitude of reasons why F AAU going to the American is exciting spans from monetary to profile, to visibility to just how the conference is run, how professional the entire operation is. Uh, everybody's really, really, really looking forward to it and becoming part of the American family,
Speaker 1 00:17:35 Who is fa u's most famous athletic alum.
Speaker 2 00:17:41 Um, so that's a, that's a, that's a good one. That's a good question. It's gotta be on the football side. What I would say is Alfred Morris, former Washington and Dallas running back is definitely up there and then pass rusher extraordinaire with the Bengals. Trey Hendrickson is certainly in that discussion as well. Devin, single Terry span five seasons as the starting running back with the Buffalo Bills. Uh, he's up there as well. Yeah, it, it definitely comes from the, uh, the, the football side. Uh, but those three immediately come to mind, I think for f a U fans, though still the most popular player is Rusty Smith, who was a quarterback under, uh, Howard Schnellenberger as f a u made the leap into the division one ranks. He was the first bull winning quarterback. He was the first conference winning quarterback, and he was the first ever f a U draft pick, uh, by the Tennessee Titans. So that's probably the f a U fan pick. But to the broad football loving public, those three names are the, the most notable.
Speaker 1 00:18:45 Give us a restaurant or a campus dive bar recommendation if there are shocker fans who make their way down to, to f AAU for a game.
Speaker 2 00:18:56 So I think that Meisner Park, pound for pound, while it's a little bit pricey, gives you the best feel for what Boca Raton has to offer. A little bit upscale, but not outta control. Great restaurants with some fun little Irish bars sprinkled in between a movie theater if you need. It's only about, uh, four and a half minutes from campus on us, one in Boca Raton. What I would say to Wichita State fans is, uh, there are hotels all over the place in Boca, all over south Florida. A little bit goes a long way with that. So save up some of the cash when you're coming down here. Understand that you can have the beach trips. Faus is only two miles less than two miles from the beach. So go hit up the beach, go to Deerfield Beach, or go to any of the beaches in Boca, but hit up Meisner Park and enjoy that and really get the feel of, uh, of, of Boca Raton. And, uh, and, and it, it's upscale without being pretentious. I think that's my, uh, my best way to sell it to you.
Speaker 1 00:19:53 That's the, that's the way we like to think of ourselves in Wichita. Upscale, but not, not pretentious. That's right. Who, who is the big rival for the owls?
Speaker 2 00:20:02 Well, it's been Florida International who stays put in conference u s A, but can it be a rivalry if you just absolutely work them every single year on the football field and then in most sports it's tough. So, F Fi u's been the rival. They played a game called the Shula Bowl, uh, Howard Schnellenberger, uh, he had put it together with the late great Don Shula. The Shula family still is involved in the game. Uh, but Don Str, who was the first coach of Florida International, obviously, uh, quarterback for Don Shula with the Dolphins and Howard Schnellenberger offensive coordinator, perfect season for the Dolphins under Shula. They put that game together. And with Howard, uh, it was his brainchild and it was sort of, Hey, Don, you good with this? And Don kind of half paying attention. Yeah, sure. Cuz that's the way Howard did things.
Speaker 2 00:20:54 Howard Schnellenberger just got what he wanted. And so the Shula Bowl was born, they played it every year. Uh, it's been extremely one-sided and favor of Florida Atlantic. It'll, uh, be put back on the schedule in the 2024 season. They've signed a three year deal to continue it, but it won't be on the schedule this season. But that's been the biggest rival, but a very natural geographic rival coming in now with, with U S F who f a U has played plenty over the years, picked up a couple of wins over them. Uh, and so that rivalry begins
Speaker 1 00:21:27 And f FIU located in Miami. So it looks like those schools are about a little over an hour apart. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Ussf then would seem to make, seem to make some sense. F a u uh, has had some big name football coaches. You mentioned them, hall Schnellenberger, lane K Kiffin, been to Five Bowl games since starting the program in 2004. Describe football's prominence on campus.
Speaker 2 00:21:51 Yeah, so F a U used to play on an off-campus site called Lockhart Stadium in Fort Lauderdale, which is about 20, 25 minutes south of Boca Raton. Uh, Lockhart was the former home of the old, uh, soccer franchise, the Fort Lauderdale St. Strikers. It has since been torn down. It is now the home of inner Miami, uh, where Leon Oesi just signed. And so it's about to get a whole lot of traffic, uh, and a whole lot of attention here in the next couple of months. But that f a U in 2011 opened, its on Campus Stadium, uh, and, uh, it is right in the center of campus. Howard Schnellenberger helped design it. It was Howard Snellen Berger, who flew up to Tallahassee to lobby the legislature at the 11th hour to let f a u have the finances in order to put the stadium up.
Speaker 2 00:22:44 Uh, he came back triumphantly the stadium, uh, was erected. And in that 2011 season, its first season open, it was Howard Snellen Berger's final season, his head coach. He was able to coach in it. Uh, something that had always been a quest for him since he took over the f a U football program. Football has always been king. Football has always been the revenue generator. Football has always been the massive focus. Football's always been the sport to try and, and wedge f a u into the very crowded state of Florida college market with the Gators, with the Seminoles, with the canes, with U S F, with U C F. And so football's always been the cash cow. Now with Willie Taggart departed, he was let go at the conclusion of last season, Tom Herman, former Houston and, uh, Texas head coach comes in after taking a couple of years away from the game.
Speaker 2 00:23:42 And he is already, come on, he's made a huge recruiting effort. What he inherits is a very talented club and some of the best facilities in the American stadium and practice facilities for that matter. Uh, f a U has put a ton of money into the facilities, uh, especially the practice facilities, and especially with the football program over the last couple of years. Uh, it has been a remarkable jump from where it was even five years ago. The athletic director, Brian White, has done a superb job of getting the community involved, finally tapping into the wealth that is in Palm Beach County and is in the Boer, uh, Raton region more specifically. So this f a u football program, it's got all the pieces in place, it's had the success. It's a matter of getting it back on track. It's a matter of Tom Herman riding the ship once Lane Kiffin left. It just wasn't the same. And so f a U was hoping that Tom Herman can, can, uh, bring this thing into Houston levels potentially here in the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 00:24:43 Baseball is a big deal at, at Wichita State, so we'll talk about that sport. F a u has had some good success. Six regionals since 2010, went to a super regional in 2002. Uh, describe the baseball program for us.
Speaker 2 00:24:57 The baseball program is the epitome of, of, uh, burst into the seams and accomplishing beyond your means. Uh, like I said, football has been king at F A U and baseball has, despite the fact it doesn't have the facilities, it doesn't have the state of the art stadium. Uh, the facilities are actually, I I, and I think anybody at F A U in athletics would agree, uh, average at best. There's been a lot of lipstick on Pig here over the last several years with F AAU baseballs facilities, yet John McCormick keeps churning out winners and 25 30 win teams and massive talent, uh, that's come through F A U. Uh, McCormick is a phenomenal coach, and where he succeeds is that he's able to identify the high school baseball players in south Florida from south Florida, just endlessly rich, maybe even as much as football is down here.
Speaker 2 00:26:02 And the guys who maybe Florida doesn't pay, uh, a ton of attention to, or Florida State doesn't pay enough attention to, or Miami, uh, doesn't do its proper due diligence. John McCormick is able to pick off that kid and bring him into the program. F a u yearly is beating Miami on their, their three occasions playing weeknight baseball in the non-conference. F a u has, has beat Miami nationally, ranked Miami two handfuls of times over the last three, four seasons. They play Florida, they play the best of the best, and it prepares them for the conference season. It really is for F aau, if they're not in the final week of the season like they were this year, and not in the race, uh, with meaningful games for a conference championship, it's a bit disappointing. And if you saw the facilities, you'd be stunned that that was the expectation, but that is the expectation because John McCormick has set that bar and these players just go out and they play and they put out massive seasons. They don't win and complain about, oh, the stadium's not this, the stadium's not this. They just ball and f a u's done as good a job as any program at, uh, at the, the mid-major level in college baseball of identifying talent. And that's why fau, uh, has, has had so much baseball success. It helps be in the heart of South Florida when it comes to collegiate baseball.
Speaker 1 00:27:27 So softball sounds like, uh, similar history at F A U. They had a longtime coach, Joan Joyce. Uh, they went to nine NCAA regionals won 12 conference titles under her. Uh, Jordan Clark replaced her. The owls went 35 and and 20 this season. Uh, tell us about softball program at fau.
Speaker 2 00:27:47 Yeah, Joan Joyce, uh, was brought into to bring it in the program to birth the program at Florida Atlantic. Joan Joyce, a softball legend in her own right, arguably the greatest softball player in the, in the sports history, struck out Ted Williams, uh, also played on the US National team in basketball, also holds the Yelp p g a record for, uh, least number of putts in a round. She was an all time legend, one of the greatest female athletes to ever walk the planet. She passed away, uh, now just over a year ago. And, uh, so a change in the direction of the softball program. The, uh, stadium is now named after her. She was the one who, who, uh, got basically got it built. And so Jordan Clark comes in young, energetic, uh, great reputation after a very successful stint at Ohio State as an assistant coach.
Speaker 2 00:28:43 She's come down here in her first year, F a u, uh, in a transition year, was right in the running for the conference championship going into the final week and made some noise in the conference, u s a tournament as well, an extremely, extremely positive first year for Jordan Clark. And that team got better and better as the gear went on, and the offense started to find itself. But boy, were they exciting. Uh, a lot of slap hitters. They'd steal bases. They take the extra base, and really, that's the identity that Jordan Clark was looking for. She is, wherever you see her, just a ray of sunshine. The girls absolutely love her. She recruits extremely well. And, uh, she, she came in and made an immediate impact. A lot of exciting, exciting softball to come with Jordan Clark at the Helmut, Florida Atlantic
Speaker 1 00:29:34 AAU is one of six schools joining the American. Uh, the other is Rice, Charlotte, Texas, San Antonio, UAB in North Texas. Any of those jump out at you as, as maybe a, a program that you see as really on the rise? What would you tell shocker fans about this group as a whole?
Speaker 2 00:29:52 Uh, I think that this group at any time, uh, conference loses teams, especially the ones, the profile that left the American and then these lower conference teams come in, I understand the actual reaction is gonna be, ugh, uh, this is terrible conference. Is it gonna be the same all of these schools, these athletic programs and, uh, what the, the ceiling or lack thereof of these athletic departments are, I promise you they're going to start showing their worth in this year. Number one, north Texas, that basketball program, and it's f AAU that ends up making that huge leap for the Final four. But North Texas had a share of either the regular season or conference tournament title each of the last three years. That is a very, very good strong basketball program that's had one of the best defenses in the country. Every SI season, they're gonna come in, they're gonna compete right away.
Speaker 2 00:30:55 Uh, you've got U T S A U T S A that football program is in year one, going to absolutely challenge, if not be the favorite to win the American in football. I, I mean, U T S A, uh, they have that thing absolutely rolling rice right there in the center of Houston. That athletics department has really built itself up over the past couple of years. I think that they are a powerhouse waiting to happen, especially on the football side of things in a very, very, very good head basketball cup as well. So when you have these programs come in in Charlotte and new head football coach, their facilities are beautiful. I mean, absolutely gorgeous. What I would say is you're gonna start seeing the benefits of these schools coming into the American in year one in multiple sports. Uh, there's not gonna be, I I, I'm telling you, there is not gonna be as big a drop off as everybody thinks. I think that the American is going to be extremely well served by these programs and extremely competitive and RPIs are gonna be just fine. And I'd be willing to bet that there's not much pushover being had from these teams. Coming from Conference USA into the American.
Speaker 1 00:32:12 Ken Levia is the play-by-Play voice of Florida Atlantic Basketball and football on the AAU radio network. You can follow him on Twitter at KV 1 0 6 3. Ken, thank you very much for your time,
Speaker 2 00:32:26 Paul. It's my pleasure. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 5 00:32:56 They let him pass it up court, and then he gets kicked off a long three by Pango. No good. One second. It's over. It's over. And Wichita State has beaten the number one team in the nation to go to the Sweet 16. Go crazy Wichita. I know you are.
