Speaker 1 00:00:12 Hello, and welcome to the Roundhouse Podcast with Paul Sutro of Wichita State University Strategic Communications. We appreciate your time. We are going to continue looking at the six schools who will be joining the American Athletic Conference on July one. Our guest today is Evan Dudley. He's gonna talk about the UAB Blazers. Evan covers UAB for the Alabama Media Group. You can read his
[email protected]. His Twitter is at Dudley Doright a l, and that's Doright, D O W R I T E A L. Evan, thanks very much for your time. We appreciate it. Let's start with football, because we know that football is the driving force in these decisions. We know it's a big deal at uab. Big deal in the state of Alabama. Uh, you've got Trent Del there in his first season, which is a fascinating situation. Give us the mood, the atmosphere around Blazers. Football.
Speaker 2 00:01:07 I think there's a bit of excitement just because, uh, having Bill Clark for so many years, uh, you know, uh, you know, it is just the newness of it. And I think Trent for, uh, you know, he may surprise a few folks. Uh, there's still a bit of a mystery in the air. Uh, you know, a lot of people will, uh, say, you know, he was just a high school, uh, coach. But, you know, bill Clark was also that, uh, he only had one year as a college football head coach at Jacksonville State before he took over u a. Uh, so this is a program that, uh, you know, has been rising the last, uh, you know, decade, I would say. Uh, bill Clark was hired in 2014. Uh, they were dismissed for two years after that first season. Then he came back, uh, well, he never really left.
Speaker 2 00:01:49 He stayed there. But, uh, you know, they brought the program back, uh, and have been successful every season since. Uh, he retired, uh, before last year due to medical issues. Uh, interim Coach Bryant Vincent took over. He's now the offensive coordinator at New Mexico. Uh, but, you know, with, for there, you know, he's, uh, he's come in with a lot of excitement, a lot of freshness. Uh, you know, it's a young staff. It's a, it's a new staff to college football. And I think because of that, their, uh, their excitement in recruiting has really helped this program. They brought in 35 players, uh, 10, I believe, from the transfer portal. That's the, by far, the largest class UABs ever. Had a lot of talent in that class. A lot of great players from the transfer portal. So, you know, it's, it is a program that a lot of people might not think will have success this year, just because of going under a new coach, but also think, uh, just the newness and, uh, their fresh look at football will help this program going forward.
Speaker 1 00:02:43 So let's give people a little bit of background. You mentioned uab, so they dropped the program briefly, brought it back. And then there's also a new, uh, football stadium that's been built within the last, uh, two or three years, can update fans on the, you know, kind of the, the, the status of UAB football and, and its appeal within, uh, the city of Birmingham.
Speaker 2 00:03:05 Well, for the longest time when UAB Football came around, uh, you know, they had one or two bowl eligible seasons, only one bowl appearance before Bill Clark came around. Uh, you know, they started in the late, uh, eighties, 89 as a club team, uh, became a, uh, uh, I believe a, uh, independent, uh, n a I, and then moved into the, uh, uh, you know, fcs, uh, you know, division one, division two, you know, those sort of things. And then finally became an fbs, uh, uh, program in 1996. And, you know, had pretty much been a doormat of FBS for a long time until Bill Clark got there, uh, led him to a six and six record his first year without the program for two years. After that, they come back, uh, they're picked to finish lasting division one, uh, and they go in a finish a, uh, eight and five record that year, you know, make it to a bowl, bowl game. Uh, and then since then, they have been winning, uh, you know, at least, uh, you know, bowl eligibility every season. They've, uh, they won three straight division titles. They won two conference championships. So it was a program that seen its most, most success it's ever had in the past six to seven years.
Speaker 1 00:04:13 So, UAB was a charter member of, uh, of conference u s a back in 1995 conference that has had some, some great seasons, some great members, and has really gone through a lot of different, uh, iterations, I guess. Why is U A B moving to the American Athletic Conference?
Speaker 2 00:04:32 I think it's just, uh, it is to take the next step, uh, for the entire athletic department conference. U S A has seen itself dwindle over the last few years, uh, especially when the, the first real, uh, round of conference realignment started, uh, you know, about a decade ago, uh, half the conference, U s A teams at that point left for the American, uh, leaving, you know, the ones that were still left, you know, um, UAB, Southern, miss, uh, law tech, uh, you know, a lot of those schools like that. And then, uh, you know, just coming into that, uh, you know, they've, they've enhanced their programs. Uh, you know, basketball, they hired Andy Kennedy, uh, former Ole Ms. Head coach, and, uh, and U A B O Lumm, uh, he has that program rolling again. Uh, football's rolling. They built a new stadium, uh, you know, their first season in it was in, uh, 2021.
Speaker 2 00:05:19 So, you know, this is a, uh, you know, an athletic department that's been on the rise. And because of that, you know, operating budgets have increased, and that's really one of the primary, uh, uh, uh, reasons, you know, programs move. It's not so much, uh, just for the, uh, uh, uh, I guess, you know, the fame of being in a bigger conference, you know, in a Pirate five conference or something like that. But it's more so their operating budgets, cuz you know, there are rumors. You, you could go to B 12, uh, talking with their athletic director. That was never going to happen just because of the, uh, the expanse of the operating budgets, uh, from the teams that were already there. So, moving to the American is the logical next step for them. Uh, there's a lot of old conference mates there. Uh, you get the renewal of the battle for the bones between UAB and Memphis.
Speaker 2 00:06:02 Uh, a great rivalry between two southern cities, uh, now fully connected by an interstate, which is about, you know, two and a half hours between them. So it's a really close rivalry. So I, I think I'll allow that, uh, help with them moving to the American and just getting outta conference u s a as it's kind of dwindled over the last few years. They have one of the worst TV deals, uh, in college sports as far as, uh, you know, a, a division one, uh, athletic conference does. So I think just getting outta conference u s a was more so their, uh, their plan than to just get into a new conference. But the American, I believe is the perfect place in, uh, you know, you see them go into more urban cities, whereas, uh, you know, a few of the Conference USA teams went to the Sunbelt, just more smaller community driven, uh, uh, uh, programs. So I think, I think they've landed in the perfect place, uh, with the American, and I think they'll, uh, they'll thrive in, in some of their programs.
Speaker 1 00:06:54 So, who or what has been the catalyst between behind, uh, U A B, getting some momentum in its athletic department in recent years?
Speaker 2 00:07:04 I would think that, uh, Liz within their athletic director, Mark Ingram, uh, uh, he, he's made a few hires, obviously Andy Kennedy, uh, Casey Dunn for their baseball team, uh, former San Sanford head coach, uh, had many years success at Sanford. Uh, they bring in AJ Ry with the softball program. He has them going in his first year. So, uh, Mark Ingram has really been the impotence of it. Uh, they've, uh, he's a great fundraiser. Uh, he did that at Temple. That was what he was known for. And since getting to uab, he's, uh, you know, helped start a foundation, uh, so they can kind of, uh, control their own, uh, uh, uh, destiny, if you will. Uh, because being a, uh, university of Alabama System School, uh, they are still, uh, relying on the board of trustees for decisions, but having their own foundation helps them, uh, make these decisions easier because they're using their own money.
Speaker 2 00:07:53 So I think Mark Ingram's just fundraising, uh, his, uh, uh, his ability to, you know, raise that money as well as, uh, you know, create facilities. You know, he's built, uh, uh, built or remodeled, uh, different facilities all over campus. Uh, there's more to come. So that's something he's been a part of, is raising money. And the facilities arms race is really where he's been, uh, uh, the biggest impact he's had since, uh, being there. I believe he was hired, uh, in, uh, late May, early June of 2015, right before the pro uh, football program was reinstated. So he's been the biggest, uh, I believe the, the cheerleader fundraiser. Uh, you know, the biggest, uh, proponent of this, uh, athletic department,
Speaker 1 00:08:33 Who is the most famous former Blazers athlete?
Speaker 2 00:08:38 Ooh, that's a, that's a hard question. Uh, you either have to go to basketball or, uh, or football, uh, basketball, probably more than likely. You know, you're looking at, uh, uh, Andy Kennedy, uh, just cuz of his name. Uh, he's been out there coaching. He is been to Spotlight. Uh, you look at Mo Finley, some of those guys from, uh, the, the UAB team that upset, uh, number one c Kentucky in the, in the n c tournament almost 20 years ago. Uh, so, you know, there's a lot of basketball players, uh, Steve Mitchell, uh, guys like that. You look at the football team, uh, you'd probably look at Joe Webb, uh, who had a fantastic NFL career, uh, played almost every position, uh, imaginable. You know, special teams quarterback, wide receiver. Uh, you're down to your, you know, your final quarterback. Hey, Joe, you know, we need someone to throw a pass here. Can you do that? Yes, sir. I can do that. So, Joel will might be one of the more, uh, famous athletes from uab, just, uh, just with the length of career he had, as well as Roddy Wat who, uh, could be a, uh, uh, hall of Famer. Uh, you know, when it's all said and done, just from, uh, his career with the Atlanta Falcons,
Speaker 1 00:09:45 If there are shocker fans who maybe live in the area or maybe travel down there, give us a restaurant recommendation or two if you're in town, to watch The Blazers play.
Speaker 2 00:09:56 Uh, well, Birmingham has actually become quite the, uh, the food city. Uh, you know, we've got a James Beard Award winner in the city. Uh, but, you know, our around, uh, you know, football stadiums, which Wichita fans probably will not be there since, uh, there's not football for that, uh, uh, on the division one level in fbs. But, uh, you know, you got the, uh, uh, around basketball, you've got, uh, uh, there's a dreamland, not too far, some full moon barbecues, uh, a lot of barbecue restaurants in this area. Uh, I, although I, preferably, I'm not a full Moon guy, I'm more of a Jim and Nick's when it comes to the chains. Uh, but preferably, I, I, I prefer a place that's got dirt on the floor and, uh, uh, you know, the, the pit's been smoked and it's already black and, you know, from years, uh, of use. So, you know, but, uh, you know, there's plenty of places to eat. You know, just find out any barbecue restaurant within the Birmingham area, and you should be pretty satisfied, uh, as well as, uh, you know, there's a lot of great sushi places, uh, and, uh, uh, Latin, uh, there's just, uh, you know, a lot of great and different foods in the Birmingham area, which is, uh, made that city, uh, why it's been able to kind of grow more in the past 10 years after it, it had seen a decline in the late nineties.
Speaker 1 00:11:04 So, north Texas won the N I T in March. It defeated U a b, uh, in an all C A U s A final, uh, Florida Atlantic, of course, went to the Final Four. So it was a great season for conference U s a, uh, in men's basketball. All three of those schools will join the American in July. What was behind that? Why did C U S A hit it so big in basketball last season?
Speaker 2 00:11:25 Well, with F A U, uh, a lot of those players had been in that program for several years, uh, with Dusty Mae. So they're experienced. And, uh, in college football, that's, uh, not, excuse me, college basketball, uh, that's something you really can't look over is experience, especially so many guys leaving after, you know, their first or second years, uh, in college. Uh, having a team that's around that long, that's that experience and know each other, uh, that well, really, uh, you know, really proved, uh, what that can do as well as they brought in a couple guys from the transfer portal that helped them out. But it was primarily a team of experience. Uh, you look at North Texas, uh, just their scheme, uh, the way they played. Uh, they, you know, played with the slowest pace in college for basketball. Uh, they're the top defensive, uh, scoring, uh, team in the nation.
Speaker 2 00:12:10 Uh, they just slow you down. They're efficient. Uh, now of course, their head coach has left, but, you know, they're, uh, who they hired, you know, is kind of in his mold. So he'll continue that tradition of, uh, playing really strong defense, uh, very efficient offense, and just wearing you out and making you work for everything. And UAB will have a new challenge. Uh, you know, they lost, uh, six seniors, uh, a couple of players to the transfer portal. But they brought in a whole bunch of new guys, uh, through the transfer portal this, uh, past season, as well as some Juco, uh, signees. They had three of the top 10 Juco Signees. They brought in Ole Miss's, James White, Arkansas's, Barry Dunning, uh, UNCs, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, will Shaffer, who was an Alabama native. Uh, you got the three, uh, JUCO guys, as well as a couple of, uh, uh, uh, prep Signees who should help them out, uh, going forward. But it's a kind of a, a reloading for Andy Kennedy with the basketball team this year. But I think they, uh, uh, they'll see no slowing down from that program.
Speaker 1 00:13:09 So, Andy Kennedy, uh, former Blazers player, great player. There he is, been very successful in his three seasons. 22 wins, 27 wins, 29 wins. Uh, why has he been the right guy? Why has he been successful there? At U A B,
Speaker 2 00:13:24 He understands what UAB basketball means. Uh, gene Bartow created this program from dust. Uh, you know, he was a guy who was gonna take over for John Wooden at ucla, was an assistant there. So this is a guy who knows how to win. Uh, you know, he was involved with Memphis basketball for many years, a d uh, who was consultant with the Grizzlies, uh, after retiring from U A B. Uh, but, you know, he created this U A B Pro, uh, program in and of itself. Uh, they went to many, uh, NCAA tournament tournament appearances under him while they were in independent into the Sunbelt, and finally into conference. U s A. Uh, so it's just a program that's built on, uh, athletic department that was built on basketball in and of itself. And, uh, gene Bartow was a big part of that. And, you know, Andy Kennedy is a disciple of his.
Speaker 2 00:14:09 And Andy Kennedy is returning this program to that Bartow Bartow standard, as he calls it. And I think that has a lot to do with it. Uh, you look at his success at Ole Miss, uh, you know, they mutually partied ways a few years ago, uh, Ole Miss did not have much success after that. Uh, you know, but Kennedy is a guy who, uh, you know, knows the way around basketball. Uh, he's got a lot of contacts in the basketball world that helps them with their scheduling, uh, as well as just, you know, reaching out and able to get some guys from the portal, which Andy has done an immense job these last few years. You know, he's brought Iny Jemison, he's brought in Quan Jackson Jelly Walker. Uh, you know, he was one of the top scorers in the nation the last couple years. So, uh, you know, he, he knows how to evaluate talent, find it in the places, bring it in, and, uh, you know, really get them to play to this Bartow standard of, uh, you know, competing for championships and making it to the tournament.
Speaker 1 00:15:02 So the Blazers play in Bartow Arena seats about 9,000 people, I believe. D describe the arena. Describe the atmosphere when, when things are rolling, and there's a big game.
Speaker 2 00:15:11 Uh, well, it's an old school arena, uh, you know, very much, uh, uh, uh, hole pit wise, uh, you know, with, you know, the stands up high, uh, but it can get quite loud. Uh, I've not seen a sold out basketball game in my few years covering just because, uh, basketball was kind of going through some troubles at that time, uh, with their former, uh, coaching Santo Andy Kennedy. Obviously, the pandemic, uh, uh, hurt a little bit as far as attendance these last few years. But it's starting to grow. And even with a, you know, a Hatfield Bartow arena, it can get quite loud. It can get very, uh, raucous. You know, these are, uh, fans who love basketball because that's what they were treated to first. You know, that's what that was. Their first love for this program was the basketball program. Uh, but, you know, I've seen that place full, uh, most not for a boxing match.
Speaker 2 00:15:57 Uh, Deontay Water. Uh, the former heavyweight champion, uh, Olympic bronze medalist from Alabama, uh, he had a few of his, uh, matches in Bartow Arena, and, uh, quite loud. Uh, it's a great atmosphere. It's right there in the middle of the city, in the downtown area. So it's, uh, it is got great potential. And I think moving into the American, uh, kind of renewing old rivalries, uh, meeting up with old conference, conference mates is gonna create more excitement than what they've had these last few years in the, uh, in the, uh, former iteration conference, u s A, uh, and, and just with having those teams back, it's gonna create a lot more buzz. And I think, uh, attendance will continue to rise under Kennedy, uh, especially as we come out of the pandemic and people are, you know, searching for more things to do to get back out. As we've seen these last couple years. Uh, you know, more people are getting out and everything like that.
Speaker 1 00:16:50 Describe Andy Kennedy's style of play.
Speaker 2 00:16:53 Uh, it's, uh, it's intense. Uh, you know, they're gonna, they're gonna get after you on defense, uh, and then they're gonna play fast on offense. They're gonna try to score the ball as fast as they can. Uh, you know, they're gonna, they're gonna try to be efficient, uh, but they're gonna be, they're gonna rebound, uh, they're gonna play defense, and, you know, that's gonna name of the game for them. Uh, you look at the last few years, the defense has been, uh, very good. Uh, uh, maybe last year, uh, this past year, uh, a little bit of let down. Of course, they had a, uh, about a month's time where they, uh, went through some problems when Joey Walker, uh, got injured. But, you know, he was really the offensive focal point these last few years. But it's really been built on defense rebounding, uh, ball control, uh, being the more physically dominant team, uh, even though they might not have the, the, the physical ance that some other teams might have.
Speaker 2 00:17:40 Uh, but it is just that, uh, that thought process and that mentality of being that tough team. And that's really helped them. Uh, you know, you look at Qu Jetts and a couple years ago, he's a, he's a guy that reminded me so much of Dennis Rodman. Uh, you know, a guy who's just gonna go out there and fight for every single rebound, every ball, uh, every steel, every bounce. He's just there and giving everything he had. And that's, that's kind of the mentality of this program Andy wants, is just that intensity. And, uh, uh, and just a complete attack, attack on everyone
Speaker 1 00:18:12 Who is UABs biggest rival.
Speaker 2 00:18:15 Uh, well, since going into the American now, it will be Memphis, uh, that, that was a longtime rival battle for the bones. Uh, you've got the greatest trophy in college football, a bronzed rack of ribs. Uh, if you crack that trophy open, you'd probably find some old, uh, uh, some, well, bad ribs we're not good anymore, but they'd probably still be in there somewhere. But, uh, you know, it's a, it's a great rivalry to, like I said, two southern cities about, you know, two to three hours away from one another. Uh, so that's obviously gonna be their biggest rival in the last few years. Uh, you can see Rise starting to develop a little, uh, uh, a little rivalry with 'em, beating them, uh, twice in a row in the football field. You look at U T S A, uh, these are more football rivalries that have, uh, been created, uh, Memphis kind of takes, uh, through all sports for them, though, uh, that, that's just the team that UAB loves to hate. Uh, the same with Memphis and uab. So, uh, that's, that's probably the, one of the more exciting things with them joining the American, is just that renewal of that rivalry. Cuz it was so intense back in the, the two thousands.
Speaker 1 00:19:16 Yeah. And that would take them back to the early days of conference U s A when Memphis was in that, in Louisville. And, uh, a lot of, lot of schools back then that have gone through conference U s A. Describe the, what's, what's the dynamic, the relationship between U aab, Alabama and Auburn? Do they play in some sports, not in others? This could probably be a separate podcast, but how would you kind of sum up the dynamic in that, in the state?
Speaker 2 00:19:43 Uh, well, um, there's been some contention between UAB and Alabama fans for some time, uh, just cuz uh, you know, the Alabama Board of Trustees does control the UAB Athletics, uh, program essentially at the end of the day. Uh, just cuz they are a University of Alabama system school. But, uh, they do play each other in certain sports, mainly baseball and softball. They do their, uh, midweek, uh, games, uh, with Alabama and Auburn. Uh, I believe Auburn and UAB played a few years ago in basketball. Uh, I do not foresee an Alabama and u a b regular season matchup, uh, in my lifetime. Uh, cuz U a B is currently won and oh, against Alabama, uh, with an n I t victory. Uh, I believe in 88 or 89 I believe. Uh, uh, so, you know, they're probably never going to schedule them ever again.
Speaker 2 00:20:31 Uh, it'll have to be during a tournament, uh, postseason tournament player for them never match up. And football, I don't think Alabama and Auburn are, excuse me, Alabama UAB aware ever played just because of the system connection. And, uh, they're, you know, there's not really a payout because you're just using your own money to pay someone else who's going to use your own money, cuz it's the same system. Uh, Auburn and UAB have played once on the grid arm that was UABs first game as an FBS opponent, which I believe was a 35 or 36. Nothing loss to Auburn, but, uh, uh, you know, they've played once on the grid arm. But, uh, you know, it's, it is mostly, uh, baseball, softball, uh, uh, soccer, tennis, you know, uh, some of the more, uh, uh, Olympic sports, things like that, that they'll usually, uh, play Alabama and Auburn.
Speaker 2 00:21:14 But, you know, football, basketball, I just don't see, uh, any of that happening with Alabama anytime soon. Maybe Auburn again, but, uh, definitely not Alabama, of course, now U A B D Mark Ingram, uh, you know, he wants both Alabama and Auburn fans to, uh, to kind of accept UAB and be fans of, uh, UAB as well. He is like, you know, you can be an Alabama fan and a UAB fan, be Auburn fan and UAB fan, uh, you know, still have those, uh, you know, those, uh, programs you're passionate about, but also become a fan of UAB cuz uh, you know, he wants it to be for everyone. So, uh, you know, I think that's, it is growing a little bit more. There's not as much contention between Alabama and UAB as time continues to pass between, uh, that n it law, so almost 30, 40 years ago. So, uh, I, I just think as that continues to grow, you'll see a lot of these programs start to play one another, uh, especially just in this new landscape of sports as it continues, uh, to, uh, ever evolve.
Speaker 1 00:22:08 So you mentioned UAB Baseball having some success. UAB softball had a really good run, uh, made a super regional in 2013 and several NCAA regional appearances. Tell us what shocker fans should know about those Olympic sports at at uab.
Speaker 2 00:22:23 Uh, well, baseball, uh, I'd say this past year was probably a down year for them, uh, especially after, uh, Casey Dunn comes in last year, in his first season, uh, doubles their win total from this, uh, year before, uh, this year, it just really came down to not being able to finish games. I believe they were five and 13 in a one run game. So, uh, it, it was just kind of a, a year where he was kind of having to bring in a lot of talent, you know, a lot of the talent. He did have graduated that first year he was here. Uh, but with Casey Dunn, seeing what he's done at Sanford for so many years, uh, I believe he'll get the program right back on track. Uh, going into next year, his third year, uh, softball, they bring in AJ Daltry. Uh, he was a juco uh, softball coach for many years.
Speaker 2 00:23:05 Uh, won many titles, uh, with Wallace State in Alabama. They hired him in his first year. They finished second in the regular season standings, uh, uh, in the final weekend. They had a chance to win the regular season at Charlotte. Wasn't able to do that. Uh, and they were owning to, uh, in those conference U s a tournaments, so they were out real quick. But I think it's a program that, uh, you know, that's gonna continue to build, especially with AJ there. Uh, they've had trouble retaining coaches the last few years. They'd come in for maybe a year or two and then leave for an assistant job out of Power Five program. But I think with, uh, AJ coming in, living in Alabama for so many years, uh, coaching the JUCO level, he has a understanding of what, what he wants to do do in the state. So I believe he'll, he'll remain there for, uh, uh, for the, for foreseeable future, and we'll continue to grow that program as well.
Speaker 1 00:23:53 UAB will join Rice Texas, San Antonio, north Texas, Florida, Atlantic, and Charlotte in joining the American, the other five schools. What jumps out at you from that, that group? What should Chakra fans know about or pay attention to from some of those other conference USSA schools that will be making the move?
Speaker 2 00:24:11 Uh, well, uh, you look at a lot of the T schools, north Texas, U T S A Rice, uh, obviously there's always abundance of talent they can pull from. Uh, obviously Wichita, uh, gets a lot of guys, uh, you know, from Texas as well, uh, with Kansas, uh, being so close, uh, close there, uh, to, to Texas, you know, you only got Oklahoma, they're in the middle. Uh, but you know, I, I just, I think, uh, those Texas teams will always have a chance to be successful just with the talent they're allowed. You look at F a u, uh, you know, who wouldn't wanna go live in book buck over time for about four years, uh, and go to college, uh, you know, a mile away from the beach. Uh, and then you got Charlotte and some of the more, uh, uh, more urban cities, uh, like that, that are coming in and, uh, and, and they've had some success.
Speaker 2 00:24:54 But do you look at today, Charlotte, uh, party ways with their men's basketball coach today? So it's a, it's an interesting thing with some of these programs that they try to maybe, uh, improve their coaching or, uh, or some of their other programs in other aspects, uh, uh, to try to compete on this next level. But I think you'll look at some of the Texas schools, specifically North Texas, U T s a, uh, U A B F A U. I think those four programs will definitely, uh, will definitely be able to compete in a, in a lot of different sports. Upon, uh, coming into the American
Speaker 1 00:25:26 Evan Dudley. He covers UAB Athletics for the Alabama Media Group. You can read his
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Speaker 2 00:25:39 Uh, happy to help, uh, glad to be on with you.
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