[00:00:14] Speaker A: Hello. Welcome to the Roundhouse Podcast with Paul Sullentrop of Wichita State University Strategic Communications. Thanks so much for listening. Our guests today are associate head coach Ashley Holton. She is in her fifth season with Wichita State volleyball, and assistant coach Katie Zimmerman, who is also in her fifth season with coach Chris Lamb. Katie, of course, played volleyball for the Shockers from 2012-15.
They join us to preview the 2026 season, which gets started this weekend at Koch Arena. Shockers 19 and 11 Last season 106 in the American they are picked fourth in the conference preseason poll. Setter Jordan Heatherly is on the all conference team.
Shockers open up 6pm Friday against Stephen F. Austin. They play Idaho State at 6pm Saturday and Missouri State at noon Sunday.
Ashley, let's start with the two scrimmages. The Shocker scrimmaged at Omaha earlier this month, played the University of Missouri Kansas City at home on Saturday.
What'd you learn from those two exhibitions?
[00:01:18] Speaker B: Well, I mean, exhibitions are great because you get to work out kinks without it affecting your record. But I think we were overall, like satisfied in where we're at at this phase of the season.
Lambo is not really ever satisfied with, you know, just potential for finding points elsewhere. And so there's, you know, he's ridden up a bunch of wheels since then. But I think it was good for us to see how the girls would operate under pressure in a true situation.
And they handled it well for the most part. You know, like we, you have to be willing to ad lib at any point. And against Yom KC, he would have kept playing for like 10 sets if we let him. He literally just kept adding on more and more sets. But the girls just did a good job of rolling with it and adjusting to whatever system we put them in. So it was good. I think it was a very positive start.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: Katie, how much of those type of exhibitions is scripted and how much are you adjusting on the fly, as Ashley mentioned?
[00:02:33] Speaker C: Well, we try and talk about it as a staff prior to because sometimes he's very much like, we're gonna do a different lineup each set. We're really gonna like, explore this year we were trying to prep more of like, like it was gonna be this weekend, like we're going to win this match kind of vibe. We're not just gonna have a tryout kind of thing.
And this last one against umkc, we ended up getting to do both. We are starters who, you know, would have been our lineup at that point did great. And then, you know, we got to throw in a lot of different people. So that was nice to kind of have both. We had a strategic plan, but then we got to be flexible and a lot of people got to showcase their stuff, especially in front of, like, our home crowd. A lot of people are new, so I think it's really fun stepping on the court in front of people that, you know, we go to other places and there's not really that many fans. So even if it was just an exhibition there, I think it's important that people got, like, their feet wet a little bit.
[00:03:31] Speaker A: So for years, Chris Lamb, he will talk about using two setters. Hasn't really gone to the 6:2. I was trying to think back, but it's been a long time since he's really done a real 6:2 and committed to it. Am I remembering that right, Katie?
[00:03:45] Speaker B: Fully committed?
[00:03:46] Speaker C: Yeah, because last year we were in and out of it.
But then, yeah, I don't know when I know Jodie Larson set for a little bit and hit. So that would have been a six. That was. That was like 2017, maybe 2016. But yeah, I'm not sure that is a great memory.
[00:04:01] Speaker A: Jody Larson has said it. I totally forgot about that. Yes. And then that got brought up at some point. So we're talking about it again because of Jordan Heatherly, and freshman Addie Oath has really made a great impression in her time here.
Katie, why might the six two fit this team?
[00:04:21] Speaker C: Great question. We have a lot of point scoring possibilities. I feel like we could put it that way.
And we are trying to manage a way that we can get the most scoring out of our offense. So certain things provide more strengths. If we were in a five, you know, that's one less attacker, but generally someone the middle has to go behind, and our middles, their strengths are in front right now. So there's a lot of different reasons if it can pass. Well, you know, there's three hitters at all times in the front row, so currently that's where we're at. We shall see how when there's a real opponent on the other side and pressure comes, there's obviously more experienced players and it could be easy to, like, shift back into the five if we need to. But I think, yes, that's what we've been working on, and that is hopefully our highest potential at the moment.
[00:05:17] Speaker A: Ashley, this might be a good opportunity. Explain to people what are some of the essential differences between the 6:2 and the.
And people who come out this weekend, what might they be? What should they be watching?
[00:05:29] Speaker B: Well, it Gives you different looks in serve, receive. Certainly it gives you more arms in the front row on a consistent basis. And like Katie said, because the setter
[00:05:42] Speaker A: doesn't rotate to the front, right.
[00:05:45] Speaker B: And. Yeah, so one thing that we haven't really had is a lot of scoring behind the setter from, like an M1 Morgan Stout type player.
And so to really be effective in that type of system, you really have to have somebody that can score, gab, to pin, and be really efficient in that way.
But Katie's right. I mean, we have a lot of scoring potential. And Lambeau is like the king of taking kids and molding them into something that could fit some type of system. Like, I think that's his gift is I think a lot of programs, it's like, this is their system, and if you don't fit it, it's like jamming a square peg into a round hole. But he's just gonna build an entire new, you know, system so that people fit in the slots that they should fit into. So.
[00:06:41] Speaker A: Okay, so that will be something to watch. Jordan Heatherly. She's in her second season with the Shockers after transferring from Memphis. Katie, how has Jordan progressed simply by. She's. She's going through this system for the.
Mm.
[00:06:55] Speaker C: Well, one, she's just the most fabulous human ever. Like, we're so grateful that she's on our team. She's a leader on our team. She's obviously a very good setter as well, but she's the type of person who brings, like, all the other things as well. Right. Like, you want her on the court, obviously, to set and to do her job, but the other things that she brings, the energy, bringing people together, like the confidence in others, that's like that. You need that in a setter. Right.
I think the second go round, she, you know, she grew up in a coaching family. She's, like, always been around the game, but we do run a lot of things differently than other programs. So I think just being able to go with the flow, literally say, like, okay, and then go execute it.
So hopefully she is definitely more comfortable in that. And I love that she's up for whatever the team needs. Like, even for her changing from a 5:1 to a 6:2. Right? A 5:1 with her, she never comes off the court. Whereas this, like, Addie Oath comes in, she goes out. And so that is an adjustment as well. Just like as a senior, you know, you would expect that person, right, wants to play, and she is willing to do anything to get us to win. And right now, we think that that's our best option. So once again, her just, like, leadership and selflessness in that I think is huge.
[00:08:12] Speaker A: Ashley. So we talked about freshman Addie Oath. She's off to a very good start. She was here in the spring, correct?
[00:08:18] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Comes from a huge volleyball family. Her mother, Megan, played middle for Texas and Wisconsin. She coaches. Her dad, Justin, played at Wisconsin. Milwaukee.
Coming from a big volleyball family, how has that helped Addie make this what appears to be a pretty quick transition to college?
[00:08:36] Speaker B: Yeah, well, like, when Dave Rubio came in, he, you know, I mean, he was the head coach at Arizona for a million years, but he was the one that, like, worked with their setters, so. And he was really impressed with Addie. She definitely carries herself with some maturity. Like, she.
She runs that position with maturity. She doesn't necessarily look like a freshman.
And yeah, like, her mom coached her for a long time. Her mom is amazing and I think did a really good job with Addie. So she definitely came in with a good set of tools to be pretty successful pretty early on. And she's very coachable, too, you know, so she's a good fit here, for sure.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: So most teams are in a good mood during preseason practices.
And Katie, you were telling me yesterday you think that supportive teamwork spirit will be crucial for the Shockers.
Why do you think that atmosphere will be a strength this fall?
[00:09:39] Speaker C: Well, multiple people who walk into our gym, I think they complement the girls on their, you know, energy. They're not work ethic, but, like, the ability to work together and, like, figure things out. And we're huge on that.
Why? I think it's super necessary. A lot of people are doing new roles and they have the ability to succeed in those roles, but it's not like we already have, like, oh, this is the standout in the American Conference. It's not like we have four first team, all conference kids. Yeah, it's possible, but, like, we're gonna need the other things to be very, very good and not distract us from volleyball, which, like, any team has distractions. And so the point of being united and being together and, like, making sure all the little things add up will just make us better at the volleyball piece. And we need to be as obviously elite as we can. So, yeah, I think it's important, and I think they're doing obviously a great job of that prior to any matches or real lineups being thrown out. But we definitely are talking about that in our gym a lot and how
[00:10:45] Speaker A: much of that is related to this is a Very tough non conference schedule. I think it's fair to say there's going to be some challenges. Ashley, how do you keep that good vibe going maybe when things get difficult?
[00:10:57] Speaker B: Well, I think a lot of that comes from work put in when things aren't difficult.
The spring and obviously preseason, I think it helps that they spend a lot of time with each other away from the court. So they have a good foundation of a relationship that extends beyond, you know, like battling for playing time.
And I think they understand too. Like on the very first day of practice, Lambeau was telling them that like from 1 to 18 we definitely have.
And I think we both agree, like, we have a very deep roster, we have a lot of girls that can play. It doesn't fall off. And in the past, some, you know, it's kind of fallen off a little bit.
But just like encourage the girls that the 1 through 8 needs to be at the top of the conference and so them understanding, like Katie said, not allowing things to distract them. And yeah, I also like, Labo does
[00:12:03] Speaker C: a good job of.
He doesn't really die on many hills. Like in a match like when we play ku, right? There are gonna be some things that they're better at than us and there's gonna be things that we're better at than them, right? And so like, regardless of the result of a match, he's very much like forward driven. We will talk about what went well, what, what we need to improve on, but it's not like in non con.
Yeah, we need, we need to win. Winning matters. But we also are looking at the like, longevity of the season and like, how can we be our best at the end, you know, in conference play, in conference tournament. And he does a better job than me at that. I would like to die on every game hill, but I think that's important. And our girls, I think then can take a breather and not be so distraught when stuff gets tough.
[00:12:56] Speaker B: Well, two years ago, was it two, we had like the number seven most difficult non con. I mean, that was really fun, but it was brutal.
[00:13:06] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: And he. Katie's right. Like he. There's been times early on where we would go into the locker room and I would be fired up. Like, I'm like, I would love to yell at somebody that was, you know, and he is very forward thinking and I actually think that his ability to look at the game through that lens is what made it so that we were all still so bought in come November at the conference tournament. Because, yeah, he was just like, this is why we put the schedule together and it built some grittiness for sure.
[00:13:39] Speaker A: That is definitely a foundation of Chris Lamb, is you're going to play a tough non conference schedule and it's paid off so many times with, with that large bids and paid off with, as you were talking about Katie getting better for conference season and all that kind of stuff. So Carl Ferreira, he's former head coach, current mental training coach, he was in the gym watching the Shockers. You mentioned former Arizona coach Dave Rubio was here earlier in the fall. So I always describe this group as kind of Lambeau's volleyball think tank.
Describe this group of coaches and their importance to Chris. They're texting, they're calling, they're visiting. How's this thing work and why does it matter so much?
[00:14:20] Speaker C: These are his besties, these are his ride or die.
[00:14:22] Speaker B: I couldn't believe how much he talks to them.
[00:14:24] Speaker C: Every day he's on the phone with one of them. But I love, I think the difference, I don't know between even like a young coach now, like me, for example, but these are people who he would say, like, they grinded in the gym together, like they literally would just get in any gym, learn from anyone. And like they truly grew the game of volleyball from like they could see differences, what it was like then and what it's like now. And so I think just that like over time they've built that relationship. But it's been so fun hearing their feedback on our team because they are all very different thinkers. Their personalities are so different, but they respect each other so much. And our girls obviously have a great respect for Lambo. So any of his friends, they have a great respect for them. And so it's just really fun to get other people's perspective who have done this at a very high level and yeah, contributed to our team. But they're definitely an interesting unit.
[00:15:22] Speaker B: They're close.
[00:15:23] Speaker C: They're close.
[00:15:24] Speaker A: Yeah. If you were to guess when Chris's phone rings, if you were to guess it's Rubio, you would probably be right most of the time. Ashley, what's your observation on this question group?
[00:15:35] Speaker B: I, I, I knew some of them well before I knew Lambeau and they, Katie's right. They could not be more different. I mean, like, Carl and Lambo are the complete opposite. Dave and Lambo.
But I think the thing too, like, one thing I've learned from Lambo himself is how to disagree with people and still have a very close relationship.
Those guys, like, they definitely have an inner circle and then there's kind of an outer circle to them, but that inner circle, like, they have this group chat. They talk all the time.
They definitely don't agree on everything, and they probably some days disagree more than they would agree. But they do it in such a.
Like, in a way that I think a lot of people could learn from how they navigate that. And, yeah, they're like the best friends.
[00:16:28] Speaker A: That could possibly be the observation that they grinded together, I'm sure, in small gyms and driving and not getting paid very much money, working with kids that will, you know, never play college volleyball.
And they love that. And that really, really describes Chris Lamb in a lot of ways. Reminds me of if you're a fan of the TV show Justified. They dug coal together. Those kind of experiences where you grow up together and get through difficult times. Definitely. Okay, let's go through this team kind of position by position. I guess this is the time to mention the injuries have kind of definitely shaped this roster. Sidney Dunning, who was a very good player for the Shockers last season, is out. And then two newcomers who I think would have played important roles, Nia Lewis and Trinity Luckett. They all got injured in the spring.
Let's start with the Littles. Libero Diaz should be a really strong spot for the Shockers. Gabby Moss and Grace Head are both back. Bri Martin is a freshman from Bishop Carroll. Ashley, take us through the Littles and their performances so far this fall.
[00:17:33] Speaker B: Well, I think the Littles are always like, a pretty special group for us.
I mean, you have to be pretty selfless in that position.
And they do a good job of supporting each other, too. They kind of have their own mini culture. I think that other Littles have really helped build that. Build that.
Gabby's great. She's been playing volleyball for a long time, and it's good to have just an older human out there. She reads well. She knows what's going on. She understands our systems, and, you know, she's really refined, what leadership looks like for her in her last year. And Grace is.
Gracehead. She's great. I think she's a lot like Jordan, maybe a little rougher around the edges because she's a farm kid, but she has, like, the greatest work ethic. She's a phenomenal teammate, and she's really talented. And she now, I mean, she, I think, is going into this season, is like the number four passer in the country based on last year's stats. She's just really exceptional at controlling the ball and serve receive.
And Bri, I'VE worked with Bri a lot in club for several years. She's just a talented kid that. She's fast as heck, and she just, I think, is definitely drinking out of a fire hose right now, but she'll come along just like every other thing Little has. And so, yeah, they're a good group, but I. You know, Lamo said today in the gym, he thinks that we have two Littles with Grace and Gabby that should be at the very top of our conference. And I agree. So that should definitely help us in the system that we're working in.
[00:19:21] Speaker A: Have they handed out the goggles? Are they still doing the goggles?
[00:19:24] Speaker B: Yeah. So you. There's, like, certain. You have to get through certain things to earn your goggles, but, yeah, they. They definitely still do that. So.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: Okay. That's kind of a fun little tradition at Wichita State. Katie, let's go to the middles. Mattie Wilson and Ali Paulson are back. I've heard a lot of good things about freshman Sophia Gilbert. Eva Krakowski. Am I pronouncing that right?
[00:19:46] Speaker B: Eva.
[00:19:46] Speaker A: Eva. Eva Krakowski. I thought I got Krakowski wrong, but I got the first name wrong. Okay.
Alex Watts are transfer newcomers. Katie, take us through that spot.
[00:19:56] Speaker C: Yeah. So one thing Lambeau does is switch people's positions, which is great, and he sees their ceiling. So, like last year, Jania and Eleanor were also, you know, listed as middles. They have kind of transitioned to more of the opposite role.
With that, we added a few more middle blockers, and we were recruiting with, you know, slides in mind, trying to go behind the setter off of one foot. So I would say that's some of their strength, the three newbies, and, you know, continuing to work on that and trying to fit that into our system.
But, yeah, I think we. We have some depth there, which is awesome. They are working very hard. They're always getting different things thrown at them. Like, one day, this is our system, the next day, this is our system. And that's just part of volleyball here at Wichita State. But I think specifically the middles, they're. They're really being asked to focus on different things. So, yeah, I think our fans will see a lot of Sofia Gilbert early on.
Well, you know, hopefully throughout. But she's a workhorse. I think that that is motivating to watch. Right. You kind of, like, want that for someone who you can just tell is firing and kind of burning hot. And, you know, she's. She's just fun. She celebrates. Well, all of our girls are fun, but I think that they'll, they'll notice her for sure.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: Why she made such a good, good transition to college at this point?
[00:21:25] Speaker C: Well, since she committed here, she actually has improved a ton. So like her last year of, of high school, she just did outside things other than volleyball. So like her strength training, her nutrition, just like the full body athlete I think developed her a lot to just be in a position where she's able to compete. And then you know, half of the things of volleyball, yes, you need to be skillful, but like you and your setter have to have a good connection. You want to be available, you need to be honestly liked. Like, so, you know, some stuff like that relationship piece plays a huge role into just getting set the ball and being able to like figure out how to score. And she's just been very open, she's been very willing to learn, coachable, and you kind of just want that for her. So, yeah, she's done a great job preparing herself for right now.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: So let's go to the pin players. Mackenzie Jones is back. She played a reasonable amount as a freshman. My understanding is she's having a really good sophomore fall.
Also. Sophomores Olivia Cohey and Jenna Cubbidge will play on the left. And then as you mentioned, Eleanor Engel and Janiya Whitekemper. Am I saying that right?
Yes, White Kemper. They are practicing on the right after playing in the middle last season.
What should fans know about this group? Ashley, I'll let you take first swing at that.
[00:22:48] Speaker B: Well, a lot of those sophomores are part of a very talented recruiting class that we foresaw definitely impacting our lineup. And so I think, yeah, they've made a lot of improvements and they should, based on athleticism and talent and skill, they should make a dent in the conference. They're certainly capable.
Mackenzie is just kind of a freak of an athlete. Like Lambeau said yesterday he thinks she should be in the NFL.
Cohee is very, very skilled.
Jenna is kind of a balance of the both, really. She's, she's just very ballsy in how she approaches the game, which is really fun to watch.
Janaya has come a long way and she's doing some great things. Eleanor, it's kind of like, like, how did nobody think to put her on the right before this? Because she's done a great job and she kind of is a highball hitter. And I mean, even people like Danny, I mean, Dani's very physical. She should be making a dent. It really should be almost a revolving door of like, we don't even Know who to put out there, because we've just got all these arms that are capable of scoring.
[00:24:12] Speaker A: And Danielle Moore. That's who you're referring to. Red shirted last year as a freshman.
[00:24:17] Speaker B: Yeah. So definitely potential there, and we need them to do it. But they're great humans, good teammates, super coachable.
They want to do what's asked of them. And they all have kind of a different wheelhouse. So as long as they're operating in that wheelhouse, I think things will look good for us.
[00:24:41] Speaker A: Katie, what are the biggest challenges for those two that are moving from the middle to the right? How's the game different over there for them?
[00:24:49] Speaker C: Slowing down.
Slowing down. Generally middles, you don't have time to slow down ever. You're just transitioning, getting up, trying to be open on the right, being able to, yes.
[00:25:01] Speaker B: Hit the.
[00:25:02] Speaker C: Hit the fastballs, which is great because we need, you know, tempo and stuff. But they also have to be able to hit the scramble, like out of system balls off of a bad pass. So I think that's the largest challenge. When you don't have those reps, you're not used to the same, like, high ball contact. But they've both done a great job of trying to, you know, manage their errors because that's normally the hardest thing, but also can be played to a strength. You don't only have to set high balls. We can go fast, then we can go slow, and they can kind of hit different things. Should be a little more difficult to defend.
[00:25:38] Speaker A: Saturday is Lambeau night versus Idaho State. That's the return.
This is the fanny pack night. I have questions about the fanny pack.
So Sean Carter and Chelsea Scott, former Shocker assistants, are now coaching at Idaho State. WSU is giving away fanny packs. I don't think of Chris Lamb as a fanny pack person.
Did I miss this? Is he a fanny pack person?
[00:26:00] Speaker C: Here's now. Yeah.
[00:26:02] Speaker B: He found this bag that he. It was like, two years ago, and he's like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe that I.
[00:26:09] Speaker C: When we went to Brazil, he took it.
[00:26:11] Speaker B: Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. But now he doesn't go anywhere without it. I mean, and he freaks out if he doesn't know where it is. But the ironic thing is, like, we'll need things like, do you have gum?
[00:26:21] Speaker C: Do you have a pen? It's not in the.
[00:26:24] Speaker B: Yeah, a pen. It's not in the fanny pack. So some of the time it's like, what is in there and why is it important?
[00:26:31] Speaker C: I mean, there's Tape.
There's athletics wide out.
[00:26:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:35] Speaker C: Which is sometimes valuable.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: There's also random pieces of gum.
[00:26:39] Speaker C: One of those, like, rolling balls to, like, roll your spine out. I feel like you had one of those in there. Things that aren't, like, on the normal purse for a woman, you know, but it definitely gets large. And he can. He'll attach his water bottle or sometimes his shoes. It's a whole. It's like. It's his backpack, but it's on his hip. It's much larger than, like, the average fanny pack.
[00:27:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:06] Speaker C: So it's immersed. Kudos to creative for. And promotions for making. Yeah.
[00:27:10] Speaker B: Because that's brilliant. Yeah.
[00:27:12] Speaker C: And on Sean and Chelsea coming back, that's so fun. I feel like he keeps saying, like, his brother and sister are coming home, which is so sweet. And, yeah, they deserve to be recognized. And, like, they put so much time and effort and love, like, into shocker volleyball. So I hope people come out and support and, like, cheer for them when they announce them and then after the game.
But, yeah, they're great. It'll be fun to see them.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: Okay. I work in the same building with Chris Lamb. I don't know how. I don't really. I don't know anything about this fanny pack. I'm gonna have to check that out.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: I would have thought maybe change your oil or remodel your basement would have been better contest or better tribute to Chris Lamb.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
You can't put him in a box.
[00:27:54] Speaker A: That's true. There is a lot. There is definitely a lot. Ashley, last concert you saw. We're switching gears from Fallen Ball. Last concert, probably.
[00:28:02] Speaker B: Zach Bryan, I feel like.
Is that the last one you went to?
[00:28:07] Speaker C: I went to the Jonas Brothers in the spring.
[00:28:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you did.
[00:28:09] Speaker C: It was great.
[00:28:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it was Zach Bryan. It was a while ago.
[00:28:13] Speaker C: We went to the Backstreet Boys. That was a while ago. Yeah.
[00:28:16] Speaker B: That was, like, so amazing. We were supposed to go to Shania Twain, but.
[00:28:20] Speaker C: Yeah, I was sick.
[00:28:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
Okay. So, Katie, your last one was Jonas Brothers.
[00:28:26] Speaker C: The Jonas Brothers, yeah. It was great.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: Okay. Good stuff, Ashley. Book, TV show, movie, podcast. What would you recommend people check out?
[00:28:35] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Well, Jordan, Heatherly, and I, we are big into Bravo shows like the Real Housewives specifically, so love that. I also listen to a lot of podcasts when I, like, run and stuff.
Some of them are true crime, but there's one called against the Odds that I just love. Has, like, some crazy, wild stories about people that survived shark attacks.
You know, stuff like that.
[00:29:02] Speaker A: Much more cultured than I am against the odds.
[00:29:05] Speaker B: It's a cool one. Yeah, but it's a good way to waste time and forget what you're doing.
[00:29:10] Speaker A: Okay, Katie, what are your pop culture references that people should check out?
[00:29:15] Speaker C: You know Ted Lasso the new season is coming out. I have watched some of those. I tend to re watch the the same things.
I'm currently in a very like, how do I survive parenting phase. So I My podcast and books are not that thrilling, but Ted Lasso. Yeah, I I love Ted Lasso.
[00:29:33] Speaker A: Ted Lasso on Apple tv. Wichita State connection that we're very proud of.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: Yes, I kind of forget that.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: Shocker Volleyball this weekend, Friday, Saturday, 6pm both nights noon. On Sunday, they play Stephen F. Austin, Idaho State and Missouri State. Ashley and Katie, thank you very much for your time.
[00:29:50] Speaker C: Thank you,
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[00:30:22] Speaker C: strand sets it up. Lincoln finishes.
The Shockers stamp their tickets to the NCAA Tournament. They are the American Conference Champions.
