Speaker 1 00:00:12 Hello, this is Paul Sullivan, tropical Wichita state university, strategic communications. You're listening to the roundhouse podcast. We appreciate your time. We've got baseball. Season's starting this week. The shockers are at Louisiana tech on Friday. They start a weekend series. We have two members of the pitching staff, Spencer Heinz, and Connor Holden to get us started. Spencer is a senior lefty. He is from Weatherford, Texas. He is, is in his second season with the shockers. After transferring from Houston. Connor is a graduate transfer from Murray state. He's in his first season at Wichita state. He is from Louisville, Kentucky. All right, we were recording this and they, what do they call this? The classroom here in the X stadium, baseball complex. We've got eight different baseball Jersey tops behind us. You guys were talking about that. What's your favorite? And how, how do you go about deciding? Who, what do you, what do you wear when,
Speaker 2 00:01:03 Um, I Le I like the all-black look a lot. It's just real slick and they kind of, they got the black pants last year, so that was a, a nice little reveal, but that's, that's my personal favorite. Um, the creams on Sunday are usually pretty nice,
Speaker 1 00:01:21 The cream. And that's the one with kind of the old west shockers across the, across the chest. Connor. Do you have a, we have a preference. Well,
Speaker 3 00:01:28 Um, I can't wait to wear the pen stripes, cause that was my favorite uniform, uh, at my previous school. So I can't wait to wear that. And then I'll be interested to see if the, if it's the starters who pick the uniforms, where, or if it's
Speaker 1 00:01:45 Coach wedge. Yeah, that was going to be my next question. At one point it was a starting pitcher who got to pick, how do they do it here?
Speaker 2 00:01:50 Uh, last year they just kind of threw something like, I guess wedge came up with it. I don't know. We'd show up and it'd be on the practice plan or the pregame, the pregame plan. It would have our uniformed listed.
Speaker 1 00:02:01 So we've got the pinstripe, we've got one yellow, we've got one cammo, we've got two black, one cream, one gray and one white. Okay. If you follow college baseball, social media at all, you know, gear is a big thing. They got to celebrate it when it rolls in, they got to show it in the locker rooms, all that kind of stuff. Um, I know a lot of that is just for, is for recruiting purposes to say, Hey, here's what we've got. If you come to our school, how big a deal is that to, you know, your average high school, senior or junior, when they're starting to make their decisions?
Speaker 3 00:02:30 I can talk on this because I got recruited, uh, last year to come here. Um, gears big, um, really big. And I remember every school that I talked to, I was like, Hey, what are, what am I going to get? Like what, what is going to happen? Um, I've gotten more gear this year. Then I did all four years combined, uh, at my previous school. So I'm extremely happy. Um, I mean, I'm wearing something right now that I got, uh, and it's nice cause I get to wear it out because usually the gear is strictly for baseball, but here you get so much of it that, um, you get like wear with pride in the community and go out and people see that. And I really appreciate that aspect of it,
Speaker 1 00:03:17 Sir. What's your view on gear and its role in the whole college baseball recruiting world?
Speaker 2 00:03:22 I think it's really important and you know, it's really taken over the last probably 10 years or so. Um, you know, when I was in junior college going through the recruitment process, I was definitely pretty interested in what the gear was and, you know, they, they kind of lay it out for you on your visit and stuff. They'll have a whole room of, you know, this is what you'll get. And so I think a lot of kids definitely rely on that when it comes to recruiting and making a decision on a school
Speaker 1 00:03:48 Top three and your decision tree, or is it top 10? Does that just depend on the, on the kid and the school?
Speaker 2 00:03:55 When I was in junior college, it was probably like top five, but when I was in the transfer for laws, I had been at Houston and gotten a lot of gears. So I was kind of just like, you know, I want a place where I can play. I guess once you get older, you might start to not lose interest in necessarily, but you're kind of like, okay, this is going to come with wherever
Speaker 3 00:04:15 I go. Different things
Speaker 1 00:04:16 Become important. Right?
Speaker 3 00:04:17 Uh, definitely I wanted it to be in my top three, but then, uh, my mom humbled me and said at the end of the day, the gear really doesn't matter. But, um, I know at a high school, I think the big thing was, cause you have all different friends going, playing different places that you almost get to show it off to your friends. Like, Hey, this is what I got. And so I think with the social media growing so much that, um, if your program isn't focused on getting an image out there of, Hey, like this is what you're gonna look like. Um, I don't think they're taking advantage of the social media because kids share it. And it's a big, big thing coming up in the next generation
Speaker 1 00:05:00 And always count on moms to bring it down to earth. What do you do with the old gear when you transferred? You had you just put it away and say, I'll wear it in 10 years or do you donate it?
Speaker 2 00:05:08 My, all my Houston stuff is back home. Uh, just hanging in my closet. I dunno. I kind of want to have it for keepsake, but you know, who knows? I might donate it sometime in the future, but I think it'd be cool to, to keep around, you know, to show my kid or something like that when I'm older. Sure.
Speaker 3 00:05:25 I know I have some stuff. I kept some stuff and then I also gave some stuff away. So some of my friends that still go to Murray and, um, and I know trading is a big thing too. So, um, like when I went to summer ball, I took year with me. And then when you go play with guys from Wright state or other Creighton or some other schools, um, you can trade gear. So then when you come back, do I have search from all over? And it's kind of like a little remembrance
Speaker 1 00:05:57 Creighton here around here that would be now that'd be your Murray state would be fine, but not, not creating gear Spencer, if you weren't playing baseball, what sport would you be involved with?
Speaker 2 00:06:06 Um, you know, I liked football a lot in high school, but, um, one thing that always get mad at my parents about is not, you're not letting me get into pro rodeo because that's kind of what my dad did and me and my brother were always kinda like, man, like we think rodeo is so cool. Like why didn't y'all ever give us a chance and they just didn't really want us to live that, that rough lifestyle. So I've always thought it'd be cool to be a cowboy and, and be on the circuit and whatnot. But, um, realistically, probably football is probably what I would've chosen.
Speaker 1 00:06:35 And you do rodeo. That's interesting. What, what event would you have leaned to do? You know?
Speaker 2 00:06:40 Uh, with my body type probably would have been as steer wrestler, little big to do any rough stock.
Speaker 1 00:06:47 I watch Yellowstone. So I know Russ, I know rodeo is a rough, rough life. So you probably made the right primary, the right choice. Connor. How about you? Is there another sport that would have grabbed you?
Speaker 3 00:06:57 You no, I know I played football one year. I'm a big body. It just didn't work out for me. I just wasn't, I didn't have the, the right stuff to do it. I am actually a volleyball player at heart. Like I, I love volleyball, so I think it, it hurts cause I can't really jump that well, but if I could jump, I would definitely play volleyball.
Speaker 1 00:07:21 Wow. Did you play ball or volleyball club? High school? Anything.
Speaker 3 00:07:25 So, um, so my freshman year, um, I got cut from the high school team, so I didn't play freshman year baseball. And then in turn I played volleyball. My freshman year we had, I went to an all guy, uh, high school. And so then we had a volleyball team. So I got to play volleyball my freshman year. But
Speaker 1 00:07:43 Interesting. What position did you play? I was middle.
Speaker 3 00:07:46 Okay. Yeah. So I liked it, but then once the next year I'd try that again and made the team and I focused on baseball,
Speaker 1 00:07:53 The baseball, interesting volleyball and rodeo. I did not expect either of those, either of those answers. Alright, take us inside the locker room. Superbowl was last night. Uh, I'm imagining there is a big chief's dynamic in the locker room. What's kind of the NFL debate arguments that go on in shocker baseball. Oh,
Speaker 2 00:08:12 Well, you know, they get the local guys and the KC guys, mainly just the Midwest guys in general, they're all giant chiefs fan. So it's kind of like, they have their little circle and then we have the Texas guys who a lot of them are Cowboys fans. So it's like, honestly, everybody in class for the Cowboys against the Cowboys, I'm a Cowboys fan. And I, you know, I can't cheat for it all the time, but it's kind of like that. And then everybody else who's, you know, against both of those teams,
Speaker 3 00:08:41 I think that's the big, the big keyword there is against because they're so passionate for theirs, for their teams and everyone else was just like, whoever they're playing. I hope they, I hope they beat.
Speaker 1 00:08:51 Um, who is the most passionate slash obnoxious chiefs fan? The locker room.
Speaker 3 00:08:56 Chucking
Speaker 2 00:08:56 Rope. Probably choking room. Yeah. Andrew Stewart is a close second, but Chuck is way more outright.
Speaker 3 00:09:04 We get the, we get the little theme song playing in the locker room whenever they want to choose the whole time before practice was playing just trucks going crazy.
Speaker 1 00:09:14 All right. Uh, Connor. So you've had an interesting journey as an NFL fan. Take us through your steps to get where you are now.
Speaker 3 00:09:21 So I'm from, I was born in Cincinnati, uh, grew up in Northern Kentucky. So I was originally a bangles fan. I'm still a Cincinnati reds fan. Um, but my parents moved to Pittsburgh before I was born. Um, and they lived there for six years and while they were there, they won the shoe or they got to the playoffs. And I think the super bowl, like twice when they were there and my parents were like, this is what winning feels like because the bangles historically of the bat. So then when they came back, they became Steelers fans. Um, and then I have two cousins in the NFL. So then that changed to starting to support them. So I had one cousin play for the photon Eagle. So I was an Eagles fan for 11 years. And then his brother, my other cousin played for the 49ers. So we, we would be going to 49ers games. We'd be going to the Eagles games to go support them. So it's been a little, I almost say like pan wagon, where I was kind of hot from team to team. And now it's trying to figure out who I want to support.
Speaker 1 00:10:21 Well, those are good reasons. Give us the names of your cousins who played in the NFL.
Speaker 3 00:10:25 The one that played for the Philadelphia Eagles, his name was prince Celek. Uh, and then his brother's name is Garrett Celek.
Speaker 1 00:10:31 Okay. Exciting.
Speaker 2 00:10:33 Yeah. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 00:10:35 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:10:36 Uh, do you have a picture that you regard as a role model? Spencer? You can start with that one.
Speaker 2 00:10:42 That's a tough one. Um, I know I'm not right-handed, but I really love watching, uh, Walker, Buehler. I just, um, I like the way he goes about his work and he's really smart. And his, his delivery is just really sound, um,
Speaker 1 00:10:59 He pitched for the Dodgers, correct?
Speaker 2 00:11:00 Yes. Yeah. He's a Dodgers guy. I also, if I had to pick a lefty, I'd probably pick another Dodger Julio Urias I think he's just kind of like a bulldog out there and he's, you know, I feel like the odds have been against him his whole life, you know, I grew up in Mexico and whatnot and um, he just, he just really gets after it and competes with.
Speaker 1 00:11:21 So when you're a lefty and you're watching right-handers pitch, is it the same thing at all? Are there things you can pick up or is it so different that you
Speaker 2 00:11:28 No, um, let, these are gonna throw different off-speed that just more often than, than righties, but I mean, it kinda just depends. It's different guy to guy. So like, you know, both Bueller Andrius are going to throw a lot of breaking balls just because they have really good breaking balls, but you know, if you watch a guy like, uh, like cliff Lee or something, you know, he, he was a change of lefty cause he had really good change up and whatnot. So, um, I don't know, it's all the same movement and you can pick things out of, of pitch sequences. You just gotta keep in mind that, you know, your out pitch might be something else than what they're out, pitches on TV or whatever
Speaker 1 00:12:08 Connor. How about you? Do you have a role model? Um,
Speaker 3 00:12:11 I would say there's like two people for two different reasons was, uh, uh, being a reds fan, uh, Sonny gray. Um, I appreciate how, um, he excelled at the athletics and then got traded to a big market team, big market team, um, to the Yankees and he struggled and then, um, the reds got him and he excelled again. So it was one of those things where even if you do have problems and you're not your best, he still fought through it and he's still, and now he's, I mean, the Red's ACE basically leading the team. So, um, him, I like his perseverance and then, um, Joe Kelly, um, for the Dodgers too, uh, because he sticks to who he is. Um, and I'm a big in the bullpen, big SPDI and throw a lot of them. And he, uh, I think he throws, it was like 75% off speed and like the hitters know that, but he sticks to what he's good at. And I, I appreciate that. So I tried,
Speaker 1 00:13:16 So shockers get started this weekend, like we said, at Louisiana tech will be a challenging series for the shockers. So let's, let's give people some insight into, we had a bunch of practices in the fall. You had scrimmages, you've had spring to look at some of your teammates, uh, give the people a hitter or two who really impressed you. Somebody that maybe gave you some, some problems. And you're looking for big things.
Speaker 3 00:13:38 I will, uh, I'll start off by saying a name that you guys will be familiar with. The Xavier Casa Rilla. Uh, he is going to be a household name hair over the next three years. Um,
Speaker 1 00:13:52 Xavier's third basement as freshmen.
Speaker 3 00:13:55 Uh, he actually got drafted this last year, uh, but decided to come here. Uh, and he is the most complete freshmen hitter I've ever seen throughout my whole college experience. He, his approach at the plate and his ability to handle off-speed pitches at this level for such a young age, uh, is like I've never seen before. And he, uh, I think he's going to have a very, very good year this year.
Speaker 1 00:14:23 Spencer who jumped out at you.
Speaker 2 00:14:26 You know, I think our lineup compared to last year is going to be, there's gonna be a lot more tough decisions to make. Um, cause we have, you know, probably 10 or 12 guys that could really start for us. But I think aside from, you know, Raska Dina and Garrett, cosis, you know, the veteran guys, um, Chuck Ingram came back with some crazy pop. He, he played a little bit last year and a few homers for us, but, um, his bats come along and I think that we had a couple of Juco guys like Brock Rodan, he's a switch hitter, a middle infielder, he's got some Jews from both sides of the plate and then Sawyer Thornhill can absolutely punish a fastball. So I think all those guys are gonna make some noise this year.
Speaker 1 00:15:08 There's also a middle infielder. Am I correct to say that? Yeah. Second base shortstop. Okay. So Connor, you said, uh, Xavier his approach at the plate, which is something I think fans hear a lot. W what does that mean?
Speaker 3 00:15:20 So, um, especially for someone as young as he is, um, he's extremely good. And he's already learned that you can't go up there and just sit fastball the whole time because, um, he is a very good hitter, even when I'm pitching them. Sometimes I don't even throw him basketballs and, but he's realized and kind of mature that, okay, certain pitchers might not throw fast balls, so I can't just sit fastball. So he's started to started to some counts, start to set off speed and, and just be okay with taking the single you don't have to try to do too much. Um, but I think with that aspect of it, of kind of seeing how the pitcher was going to pitch them and not just be stuck in one approach, if you kind of changes, like we had a conversation yesterday about our bat that we had, and he told me that he switched his approach three times during the, I bet he was sitting fastball during the early part of the counts. And then later, later in the county starter sitting off speed. And I think someone of someone that young to be able to do that because it's very hard to do, uh, is super impressive.
Speaker 1 00:16:30 So how often do pitchers talk to hitters kind of talk, hitting to try to pick their brains and figure out something that will help you? How often does that go on?
Speaker 2 00:16:38 Uh, I mean, I do it all the time after I throw an inner squad or something also on the last question I forgot to mention Peyton. Totally. The guy can absolutely mash.
Speaker 1 00:16:48 Yeah. We heard a lot about him in the
Speaker 2 00:16:50 Fall, huge guy when he gets a hold of one, it's massive human beings. It's not going to come down for a while, but yeah.
Speaker 1 00:16:55 And he will pitch and play first base or DH from what I understand.
Speaker 3 00:16:59 Right.
Speaker 2 00:17:02 Um, but yeah, going back to, uh, talking about talking with hitters, I always try to, you know, kind of get a feel for, you know, what they might've been thinking or like say I threw a pitch and I CA I might ask them like, Hey, did, did that set up? You know, another pitch later in the at bat or whatever it might be. You're like, Hey, once I threw that pitch, like, did it have you look in at looking somewhere else or whatever. So it was kind of good to get, to get a mine. Um, it's kind of good to be mindful about what a, hitter's thinking up there so that we can use it to your advantage in a game.
Speaker 3 00:17:35 I think it's nice also that we can ask them, Hey, what did you see? Like, cause a big thing with us is did you see it out of my hand? Cause a big part of pitching is deception. So especially with our change ups such as a really good change up, but it's, I'll go ask the hitter afterwards. I'm like, Hey, did you see the change of out of my hand right away? Or did you see fastball and then adjust? And I think that's a big thing that you can ask too, is like, Hey, did, did you see that pitch out of my hand? Cause if they're seeing it well, okay, then maybe I need to change something or I need to throw a better pitch.
Speaker 1 00:18:07 So you two would be two of the more experienced guys on the, on the pitching staff describe, uh, leadership roles, what you try to do to, you know, to help other people along, especially the younger ones.
Speaker 2 00:18:20 Um, I'm, I'm kinda more of like a quiet leader in a sense, like, you know, I'll help a guy. If I can tell that they're swimming or whatever, like I can't figure it out. But, um, I try to just, you know, have the young guys watch me or maybe, you know, give them like little, little bits and pieces. Um, along the way, if I can tell that they're they're struggling or whatever, but that's kind of what I do. But, uh, Congress, um,
Speaker 3 00:18:50 I'm probably a little bit more vocal and Spencer, um, I try to do with the leadership is, cause I we've gone through it. Like I've made the mistakes and so I try to help them out and cause we've gone through it. And I think a lot of it is they're going to have to go through it cause that's how you learn, but it's can we like make them go through it and have them understand what they did because that's the big thing is make sure, you know, why it's happening. Like what did you do wrong? And so that you can fix it yourself. You don't need someone to tell you. Um, and, but we do have some great leaders on the team with, um, Rawson, cosis being the main to leading it. And then also foster Gifford as a pitcher who's been around. He helps leading the guys also. So we, even though we are a young team, um, we do have that presence in the older guys of Hey, like lead by example. I think that's a big thing here too, is not so much getting your face raw. Like do this more as the older guys do what they're supposed to do. And then the younger guys watch and learn from that.
Speaker 1 00:20:04 So Spencer, if you could go back and talk to the freshmen version of Spencer Heinz, what advice would you give yourself?
Speaker 2 00:20:12 I would tell myself to not worry about 95% of the things that I worried about as a player. I, as I've gotten older, I've just come to realize that, you know, the more distractions you cause for yourself, the less your mind is going to be on, you know, executing the pitch or, or doing your job. That's kind of something that I would really get frustrated. I would get frustrated with like little things that really didn't matter in the grand scheme of it. So like, oh, I don't know. Like if I, if I was pitching and I didn't have feel for a pitch, I would, I would just like make a way bigger deal out of it than it actually was. Instead of just competing with what I had that day. I'd be like, man, I got to find this pitch. You gotta find this pitch. And it would kind of like, it'd be in the back of your mind when you're out there and you're not really able to be yourself. So that's a small example, but
Speaker 1 00:21:05 Sure. Connor, how about you? Oh,
Speaker 3 00:21:08 Um, I would tell my younger self that, um, if the only person you really need to believe in yourself as you, um, cause that's through my career, I've tried to have seek validation through others and like, coach tell me I'm good do this. And I think at the end of the day, um, what I've learned is no matter what your stuff is that day, no matter, um, if you're throwing hard, throwing slow, whatever you have. I think a big thing is, is if you believe in yourself, the pitch is pitcher's gonna, you're going to execute that better way better than if you don't. Um, then I know I struggled with that younger in my career, but I think the big dangers, at least now that I've learned is I believe in myself a hundred percent, no matter what happens, no matter if I didn't warm up, if I did warm up, then I go out there and just know that I'm going to put my best stuff out there. And at the end of the day, I can go to sleep knowing that I believe in myself and that I can, I did my best.
Speaker 1 00:22:18 So Spencer you've started games. You've come in as a reliever. Describe the, the difference in mental preparation, getting ready for those two different,
Speaker 2 00:22:26 Um, relieving really simplifies it for personally. Um, you know, I love both of them. I don't really favor one over the other, but I know that when you're a reliever, you're, you're kind of just thrown into the game. You'll really have time to have all this buildup of nerves and adrenaline and stuff. So, um, it's really simple when you're in the bullpen, but, uh, as a starter, you know, you have your, your routine, your weekly routine, um, you have your bullpen every week. So, and from week to week, you know, you look back at your, your starts and you're like, okay, well in this art, you know, I, I did this. So like, I'm gonna try to improve that next start or whatever it might be. So, um, you got more days to sit and think on your perform on your past performances so that can, that can get to people. It got to me a little bit last year, too. Um, but I'm not, I mean, it's, it's a lot different for sure. You know, it's, it's way different having seven, five to seven days in between pitching than it is, you know, one to two, maybe
Speaker 1 00:23:29 Connor you've closed out a lot of games in your career. Uh, and people I think enjoy closers. They have a lot of them, they would have the stereotype of kind of a special teams, wild man, real aggressive, heavy metal Kip plan out when they run out of the bullpen. What's your philosophy on being a closer? Um,
Speaker 3 00:23:47 Um, I think my philosophy is just attack at like, I do think being a closer, um, because those last three outs are the hardest house to get, uh, and baseball because everyone's just so much more focused. You're getting a hundred percent of everyone's focus and one run in the first sitting is a lot different than one run in the last thing. So, um, my focus is to attack because if I'm attacking, uh, that's when I'm on my best stuff, I want to get out of the inning and 10 pitches or less. I like strikeouts are great and everything, but I'd rather three ground outs, five pitches let's move on. Um, and, but at the same time, you have to be able to control your breathing. And that's what learning from closing. All those a long time is you, you have to be raw and hyped up and let's go, but at the same time, you have to be calm and under control. So it's almost like a controlled violence.
Speaker 1 00:24:47 Do you have a favorite closer? I don't think you mentioned closers when we were talking earlier to have somebody that you, you liked their song, Trevor Hoffman, hell's bells or anything like that.
Speaker 3 00:24:55 Um, my, my song, my walkout song is actually a closers in the big leagues walkout song, same one, um, Edwin Diaz. I believe he's with the med snow, I think. Um, but he, freshman year I went out to Seattle and I trained with drive-line out in Seattle, my freshman year. And we lived out there and he was the closer for Seattle and we went to two or three games and every game he closed and all the lights were going on and off big presentation fire. And it was his, uh, his song really. I got attached to. So ever since what's the name of the song? Uh, it's narco by blaster jacks. It's an EDM song with trumpets. So this year I'm a big trumpet fan. So it'll, you know, I, it gets me hype and I think it'll, it'll be a fan favorite, hopefully. All right.
Speaker 1 00:25:48 Looking forward to that. Jace Cummins SCA starting pitcher had just a fabulous freshman year. Spencer, you would have been around him all last year. Connor, you would have got to look at him this fall. Uh, give us some insight into what may made Jay such a good, good pitcher.
Speaker 2 00:26:02 Uh, the dude is just a flat-out competitor and you know, he's a winner and he's, he's been doing this as whole life, uh, obviously as Gatorade player of the year, his senior year in high school. So twice yeah, two time Kansas area, um, you know, he just, he just goes out and competes with what he's got. He's he doesn't really care what anybody thinks. He doesn't really care, you know, what's going to happen. And he just, I'm going to be myself and you know, he's gonna, he's gonna go out there and shove every time. I think our team last year was a little bit different every time we had JS on the mountain. For sure.
Speaker 3 00:26:37 Yeah, no, he, uh, getting to know him. Um, and he's a funny dude. He's super, um, and it's not, I don't even think he like tries to be funny. I think he's just who he is, but he's so relaxed and laid back that I think that helps everyone around him because I haven't had this conversation with him because he's going to get a lot of pressure this year. Uh, being a pre-season All-American being our guy. Um, but at the same time, he doesn't, it doesn't get to him because he is so laid back. And I think whenever we're out there, we see him out there and he's laid back. Everyone else kind of takes a deep breath. Hey, like Jason is going to go do his thing and we're going to be successful.
Speaker 1 00:27:21 That's kind of a big debate among fans because you'll hear a lot about Friday night guy setting the tone for the weekend. Some people would say, well, that's nonsense because somebody else has got to start on Saturday and things could change immediately. Other people will say, no, that's, that's critical. W if you had that discussion or where do you fall in that discussion? What does a Friday night guide do for?
Speaker 2 00:27:40 Um, I mean, I think, you know, last year was a little different with four game series. Cause you could always, you know, split the series and that'd be it, but with three games, it's like, if you're down that first game, you, you gotta come back and win too. So like you're already kind of in a hole if you lose on Friday. But yeah, I think the Friday guys, obviously probably the most important starter on, on the rotation, just because that first game of the series, like you need it.
Speaker 3 00:28:07 Yeah. We, um, um, Friday guy, you're getting there Friday guy too, you're getting their best, uh, best against best. And I think one thing this year that I think we're going to really embody in what wedge talks about is presence. And that when we show up to the ballpark, we don't fear anyone. We're the ones that are feared. So I think this year, especially like when we show up Friday night to places, when we go down to LA tech, um, to a ranked place, that's going to be a packed house. And we show up that our presence and a word here, this is, this is our field. We're gonna, we're gonna do what we do. And I think Jason's gonna do Excel at that and establish, okay, this is we're here and we're gonna, we're going to give you our best.
Speaker 1 00:28:54 So Connor, you would have some fresh eyes on shocker, baseball, being a, being a newcomer. What stood out to you about the way things work around?
Speaker 3 00:29:02 Um, it's a lot more organized, um, than my previous school. And I think that's also because we have a great staff, um, cause Lauren Hibs is amazing. And I think he's a big part of why this program has success, um, being wedges, his right-hand man. And then also the fact that almost everyone who's in the staff is played here. Our strength coach played here. Head coach played here. Lauren played here. Palfrey plate played here. Um, I mean our camera guy, Willie played here. I mean, everyone around this program played here and decided to come back. Um, and I think that's the big thing for me is that they want this program to succeed. They're not here just for like a stepping stone to get to the next job. Uh, and I think that really resonated with me that they want to make an impact here. And that's what I want to do.
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Speaker 5 00:30:32 And they let him pass it up court. And then it gets picked off a long three by PENGOS. No good. One second. It's over. It is over. And what your task has beaten. The number one team in the nation to go to the sweet 16, go crazy. What Utah.