[00:00:15] Speaker A: Hello. Welcome to the Roundhouse podcast with Paul Sullentrop of Wichita State University Strategic Communications. Our guest today is Terra Murray. Terra, a former Shocker. He is now in his third year as a player development coach for the Philadelphia 76ers. Terre played two seasons in the NBA for the Knicks, Jazz and Wizards. In addition to playing internationally and in what is now the NBA G League. Tre played at Wichita State from 2008 to 2012. He was one of the one of the better all around players in program history. You'll find his name on the on the career leaders list in a lot of different categories. He averaged 11.1 points, 4.5 rebounds and three assists for his career. Earned all Valley honors three times and one is on the Missouri Valley conferences all defensive team twice. Trey is from Houston. He was part of coach Greg Marshall's first recruiting class and that group included Garrett Studs, David Kyles, transfers Clevin Hann and Gabe Blair. They launched the Shockers into a great era. The Shockers played in the NIT in 2010, they won it in 2011 and then returned to the NCAA tournament as an at large team at 2. 2012. So, Trey, let's start with describing your job. What does a player development coach do?
[00:01:34] Speaker B: I like to give people the kind of like the skeleton of the body. You know, you have all these different attributes and different jobs that you got medical, you got strength coach, you got, you know, conditioning coach. So to me, I like to consider myself kind of like the heartbeat and the rhythm of the band that kind of like drive the guys, give the guys energy.
Skill development is my expertise. I really get the guys, you know, going with their shots and, you know, getting guys better and going through the drills and really, you know, kind of like what they're going to see in the game and kind of like put them in the same scenario situations and you know, just kind of just prime them in those type of situations and watch a film with the guys that, you know, maybe I see in the game that they could do better at.
For example, you know, I really work close with Tyrese Maxey and Ricky Council and those are, you know, two young guys, two young guys in the league that's up and coming, you know, doing really well.
And you know, with my expertise and my experience that I played in the NBA, I feel like my vision of what I see, especially me playing point guard, there's certain things that I see in the game that I can help Tyrese with. You know, maybe the other team is kind of blitzing him, trapping him and kind of just give him pointers of what, you know, what to see and what to, you know, look for prior to the play happening. And with Ricky, another example, he's. He's not the best three point shooter in the NBA, but we're constantly working on his shooting mechanics. So things that I see that he's doing, doing well as far as like foot preparation, attacking, attacking the basket and certain, you know, things that I see within the game that he can get better at. I kind of just show him those tools in the game and practice and anytime I get free time with him. So player development is really, really.
It's kind of like what I do in life already. I love coaching and I love talking with the players. So I'm heavily involved with the players. So it's mainly just talk with the players.
[00:03:48] Speaker A: You have, do you have a specialty area? Shooting, ball handling? How does it, how does it break down in that way?
[00:03:55] Speaker B: You know, because I was a rookie coach last year, my main, my main goal was getting the guys warmed up with the ball handling. I also guard a lot, I guard the players.
You know, I tell them to do a move and hey, I'm gonna go under on your ball screen and I want you to shoot it behind the ball screen. So I kind of like walk them through those type of scenarios. But this year I have a little bit of a bigger role in terms of watching film and kind of like going through teaching moments within practice and games. So it's really fun.
[00:04:35] Speaker A: How much of the job is mental confidence, scattering reports, that kind of stuff. And how much of the game is, is physical fundamentals of shooting or defense.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: It's all encompassed, man, you know, basketball, three levels, defense, offense, and just, you know, overall, just efforts, just playing the game and on, you know, the IQ and with these high athletes and, you know, everybody's really smart playing this game. So you always trying to find an edge. I wouldn't say anything is easy in the NBA. It's always difficult because you have so many great coaches that scheme really well. So they might send Tyrese Maxey or Joel Embiid, they might blitz them the whole game. So as a coach for me, I have to figure out ways, you know, the solution to help these guys within the game or within the practice or what, you know, what to look for.
So I'm always constantly just in the ear about, you know, how I can help and be a service to those guys.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: Tyrese Maxey, boy, his career is off to a great start. I was going to call him a rising Star in the NBA, but he might already be a star. What makes him special? What have you learned working with a player like Tyrese Maxey?
[00:05:47] Speaker B: Man, just. Overall, he's just a great kid. He's very humble. He comes from humble beginnings, great family, and anytime you get around those guys, they're just listeners.
He understands information very well. He's never too good to. To listen to, you know, anybody. And with just the talent that he already has, with his shooting ability and his tremendous speed on the court, he really knows how to, you know, use those things well and manipulate the defense really well. I think anytime you can shoot the ball in this league, you're going to have a really high ceiling. So the good thing about him, he can shoot the ball really at a high clip, and then, you know, if you try to press up on him, he has the speed to go by you. So, you know, within his young career, he really mastered that, and he's continuing to get better, and he's doing really well with the Philadelphia 76ers, no doubt.
[00:06:51] Speaker A: Whenever I think about player development, I think about Greg Hire throwing tennis balls at guys while they're trying to dribble. Do you ever. Do you ever throw tennis balls at guys? Do you use those dribbles?
[00:07:01] Speaker B: You know, with gh, man, that was true.
The pureness of development, that was. That's kind of like how I started outside doing my thing as an adolescent trying to learn basketball. So those things I still do today, I haven't introduced those things just yet to those guys. But as I get more comfortable in this player development role, I definitely pull out the old school tricks, man. Shout out.
Yeah.
[00:07:31] Speaker A: He was an assistant coach with the Shockers and seemed like guys really respected what he was able to do in those. In those kind of skill development areas.
So you won a NBA G League title with Rio Grande Valley in 2013. That team was coached by Nick Nurse, who is now the coach of the Sixers. How did that relationship help you get started on this coaching staff?
[00:07:52] Speaker B: You know, one thing me and Coach Nurse always share was that championship. And, you know, the good thing is the following year when I. When I got called up to the Knicks and he accepted a job with the Toronto Raptors, we just always stayed in touch, man. You know, I saw him as a guy that was trying to get in the NBA and reach his dreams of being a coach just in the NBA. And I'm sure as things transpired in the NBA, he got more comfortable. He was. You know, his goal was to be an NBA coach, but Just along the way I had a 10 year career and as far as the NBA and Europe and, you know, each time that I was able to get back to Vegas, I was able to text him and call him and just, you know, maybe walk in on his practice, maybe have a sit down at a, at a restaurant and just to remain friends. I didn't really start looking for a job until the latter part of my career. And I remember one summer I kind of just mentioned to him that, hey, I'm thinking about getting into coaching, what you think? And you know, he kind of gave me the motivation of like, man, you'll be an excellent coach. You know, you just got to just, you got to know when you want to, you know, make that transition.
And that always stuck with me.
And when I finally decided to, you know, move past the game, he was the first person I called. I had a few interests from other NBA teams, but I really wanted to work for Nick Nurse. And I just sent him a text message and he got right back to me and I was hired within less than 48 hours. It was a really, it just showed me our relationship over the years and how much he trusted me and how much he appreciated me. And for him to give me a job so soon and him just receiving a job from the Philadelphia 76, it was a no brainer for him. So I'm really thankful for him doing that for me and just giving me that opportunity.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: What are the most important things you've learned from being around Nick Nurse as far as coaching?
[00:10:05] Speaker B: He's truly himself.
He's not a rah rah, yell at you type of person.
He's very understanding, very model tone.
He doesn't feel like he has yelled a message. He's always trying to help you understand the message and see the message. And one thing about coaches I see today, they always tell you, hold yourself accountable and use those type of empty words. He's the type of guy, okay, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna hold you accountable, but this is why I'm gonna tell you why, I'm gonna hold you accountable. And then he'll run off four or five things in terms of like, hey, we need you to be more physical, we need you to be more selfless. We need you to be more of a team player. We need you to be on time, you know, little things like that. So being specific within coaching is very anal in the sport. It's very deliberate. And just seeing how he gives out that message to the players is really kind of cool because you know, most NBA coaches, you think you gotta be all technical and he's really himself and the guys really like him.
[00:11:23] Speaker A: Why did you decide to get into coaching?
[00:11:27] Speaker B: I couldn't see myself doing anything else.
I was, for maybe two or three months, I was a PE coach in my transition, trying to figure it out. And that kind of gave me the early bug of like, man, I really like being around kids. I like explaining them, you know, what I want them to do and what I want them to see. And let's see how successful, how successful they can be at, you know, me telling them what to do. And, you know, basketball has always been my first love.
I love teaching the game. I love sharing the game with young athletes and former players and, you know, just sitting here talking to you, Paul, it just, this is what it's about and just giving back and just helping people understand my story. And it's been a long road, but every day I always cherish it. I always took everything, I never took anything for granted. I mean, I just, I love the game so much and I just want to get, continue to give back.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: Coaching mentors, you obviously get a lot from Nick Nurse. Who else in your basketball journey have you admired, watched, borrowed things from, stolen things from.
[00:12:41] Speaker B: I come from a basketball family, so my first option, first 1A, 1B, would be definitely my dad. He instilled the game in me.
We talk basketball all the time. We get on the phone.
I had two older brothers that played collegiate basketball, professional basketball. So just having that background and that background doesn't come without somebody really teaching you the fundamentals of the game early. And my dad was really, he's really anal about that and really deliberate in terms of just, hey, this is how the game is played.
You want to be a big time player, you got to share the basketball. You got to know the game, you got to really watch the game. So just having those early sit downs with my dad, he just really explained to me, you know, the essence and true basketball pureness. And I was a kid that listened, and to this day, you know, he's doing the same thing to young athletes. And he still, you know, me being a young coach, I still listen to him because he, you know, he'd been a coach all his life, so he really knows how to talk to people and he really helps me out a lot.
[00:13:52] Speaker A: We live in a big college basketball world here in Kansas, and sometimes people don't watch, don't appreciate the NBA. What's the biggest misconception about the NBA? You might say to a A person who doesn't, doesn't watch much, I would say.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: The misconception is, you know, you hear a lot of guys that they don't care and, you know, the game is fixed.
And just seeing these guys work hard every day and seeing the ones that come from undrafted to, you know, millions of dollars, and they finally, you know, playing the NBA game and I see those guys more than I see the other guys. I think guys that kind of, you know, too good for the game, they kind of get dried up in the game and they kind of get shelved to the side really quickly because there's so many young, great athletes that's coming up and they're younger and the NBA is only getting better now.
It's a beautiful product that's being, you know, put out into the world. And these guys are really good.
You just, you know, you see so many great players every night. You know, it used to be maybe five, five to 10 teams that were really good. Now, you know, now you got at least 20 that you can watch and really, you know, have a good game. So I think that's. That's really important for the game and for the viewership that's. That's happening right now.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: So if you're going to tell a fan, watch this NBA player and you will see somebody who really plays basketball the right way. Who are some names that jump to mind?
[00:15:30] Speaker B: The first one that jumps to mind is my fellow Shocker is Fred Van Fleet. He's true essence, true pureness of the game, really love the game, comes from humble beginnings. And he's a guy that I just watched maybe last week they played in Philly.
And he plays that same fire, that same energy and that same spark that he played, I'm sure, since the beginning.
So he's one of my favorite players ever. And I really tell young guys, young guards to watch Fred because he really knows the game, he studies the game, and most importantly, he wants to win.
[00:16:11] Speaker A: You mentioned Ricky Council IV earlier. He's a former Shocker. He's in his second season with the Sixers, getting some good playing time lately. He had 12 points in a game against Houston, 17 against Detroit. Give us the update on Rickey's NBA career.
[00:16:26] Speaker B: Ricky is doing really well, man. I'm extremely proud of Ricky.
He was a guy that was undrafted, had a dream, transferred from Wichita State. Unfortunately, he gave us two years, but he played really well at Arkansas and I give him stuff every day about that. I told him he wanted the guy that I don't want to say Messed up the program, but kind of took a step back. We needed all the talent we could, but Ricky is constantly working hard. Every day he's in the gym, he's listening to everything that I have to say. You know, he had to see it to believe it.
And, you know, in playing in the NBA, it takes a lot of patience and a lot of understanding. A lot of when you get your moment, you gotta make it count. So just having somebody in his ear, that's explaining to him, hey, you're gonna get some playing time. Be ready, stay ready. Hey, this is what we work. This is, you know, just being really deliberate about what we're working on.
And I think he needed somebody in his life like that that he can trust. You know, like I said, his shot is always a work in progress, but he's been really working on it. And when he gets in the game now, he's making shots and he's playing really well, and I'm extremely proud of him.
He's playing really well and helping us win.
[00:17:58] Speaker A: Well remembered. In Wichita State, he was on the Sixers website. It lists him from being from Arkansas, I think. Can you get that changed? He spent more time at Wichita State than he did at Arkansas.
[00:18:09] Speaker B: So, yeah, yeah, I've been telling him, man, I've been telling these guys, he's a soccer at heart.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: Yes, definitely. Definitely.
What have you learned about teaching the game over the course of your career? What's the best way to reach? You know, you're going to be talking to guys that have different ways of taking in information, different ways of reacting to teaching and coaching. What have you learned about the best ways to really reach people?
[00:18:37] Speaker B: Well, I think for me, because I played the game and because I played the high level, that's to my advantage, and I'm going to continue to use that. Because anytime you have somebody that's done it before and been in your shoes, I think there's always just a human nature aspect of, okay, like, he's done it before, so he has to know a little bit of information.
And, you know, for me, if they didn't know I played, just showing them my passion, my energy, and explaining to them, hey, this is what it takes. This is the speed that you have to go to. And like I said, film is always a number one thing to show them and just matching them up against somebody their age or showing them like, hey, this is who you gotta play against. I think competition is the ultimate winner in life. You know, we all competitive in every aspect in life. So anytime you can Put them on the court and compete and show them like, hey, this is what it takes. I think that's the true reality of basketball and sports.
And there's a lesson in losing, and there's a lesson in winning. So as long as you can understand and have an open heart and understand constructive criticism, I think there's a. There's a, you know, there's a passive way that you can understand information. There's. There's. There's a chance for you. So I just try to help those. Those young athletes just understand that part. Like, you gotta be able to understand information. You gotta be ready to, you know, go with your opportunity. And if you don't want to listen to me, you know, hey, life. Life's gonna, you know, bite you in the butt and you're gonna, you know, you're gonna have it the hard way. But like I said, there's a lesson with that.
[00:20:26] Speaker A: You played two seasons in the NBA. Who were the veterans that helped you? Who mentored you as a young player?
[00:20:33] Speaker B: One of the first ones I'd like to mention is Carmelo Anthony.
He was one of the first reasons why I made the team. And he's one of the first superstars that I looked up to and somebody that I've been. Played the video game with, seen the magazines, and to finally be up close to him and him kind of like take you under your wing and tell you, like, hey, you can play this game. You can make this team.
He was the first person that, you know, that truly believed in me. The second person, Mike Woodson, he was another guy. He was the head coach of the New York Knicks.
He gave me an opportunity in summer league, and it's something that I never forget.
And it kind of like put me on my journey of NBA and competition and chasing this dream that I always wanted. And for him to give me the opportunity and put me out there with a guy like Carmelo Anthony and run the team, you know, it's a kid that, you know, I couldn't ask for anything else.
But those two, Carmelo and Mike Woodson. And, you know, we had a fuller veteran team on that team. Kenya Martin was a great mentor. Pablo Priggione, Bino Udry, Raymond Felton, my point guards, Amari Stoudemire. And, you know, last but not least, you had J.R. smith, Metta World Peace. So I had all these great players on my team and, you know, a lot of veteran experience. And me coming in as a rookie, me and Tim Hardaway Jr.
I soaked up so much information because I was a guy that was undrafted. I didn't know if I was going to be in the NBA next year. But every day, like I said, I worked hard. I came into work with an open heart, understanding, and those guys just gave me information. And to this day, each time I see him, it's always love. And we always say, what's up? So it's a great time.
[00:22:32] Speaker A: I think Ron Baker had good things to say about Carmelo as well. That's interesting. He seems like he made a good impression. Okay, let's go to your time as a Shocker. So a lot of success. 2011 NIT champions. Won the Missouri Valley Conference in 2012. Got the Shockers back in the NCAA tournament that year. What's your best memory as a shocker?
[00:22:52] Speaker B: Man, it's so many.
It's hard to just pick one. But one of the moments I like to talk about, it's not necessarily a game. It was actually coming off a really bad loss at Northern Iowa.
I'll never forget. We.
We fly Northern Iowa, they smack us really bad. We get back on the flight, and Marshall was kind of telling us, hey, we about to practice soon as we get back to the arena. And that was kind of like at the lowest point. This was my freshman year.
It was my freshman year. We lost 17 and 17, so it wasn't our best year, but it was definitely a year that we bonded together. And there was games that we should have lost, but we won.
And that moment right there is because we got smacked really bad. And we came back and practiced. And from then on, we kind of went on a little bit of a win streak. And I started hitting some game winners. During that time, I started taking more of a leadership role.
Like I said, Marshall, he kind of held me accountable. And from that moment, from that conversation, from that practice, from those meetings, I kind of took my responsibility of upping my leadership and kind of like playing harder and playing more for the team and just trying to help, you know, trying to make more winning plays. And I would say, like, at that moment, like, we became more of a brotherhood. The coaches, they really challenged us, and we accepted the challenge. They actually, they kicked us out the locker room, and it was really bad.
It was really bad. They kicked us out the locker room. They told us how bad we were, and we could have folded at that moment, but at that moment, we kind of bonded more together and we kind of took off. And as I look back at the program now, I always look back at that moment because, you know, that's when we start Winning and we figured out okay, like we can win, we gotta play a little bit more tougher. So I like to say that moment right there was, was really bad, but it turned a bad into a good thing.
[00:25:14] Speaker A: I'm looking at the schedule from that season, it looks like you were Talking about a 78, 54 loss up at Northern Iowa. Northern Iowa would have been very good at that time.
Yeah. It wasn't too much later then. I guess that would then be the Blackout game against Creighton is when things started to turn around, if I'm remembering all that.
[00:25:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what happened. That's exactly what.
[00:25:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: And I think Craven was a great team at that time. Northern Iowa was a great team and we were kind of like the underdogs. You know, we were trying to figure it out but you know, like I said, we, we beat some, some pretty good teams that year.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: Yeah. So yeah, played. And I think Chris Jans, the former assistant coach, now the coach of Mississippi State has talked about that day. The Shockers were on a losing streak. They didn't think there was going to be much of a crowd and they walk out for Saturday afternoon game against Creighton and the. And the arena is full and, and that was kind of the turning point for, for the Shocker program.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: Yeah, that I think that was great for the whole Shocker Nation for everybody. Everybody knew about the practice of us getting in two in the morning and practice again.
And like I said Marshall, he really challenged us and we could have folded. But hey, you know, I don't. I never been a person that. That gives up David. Kyle wasn't the person that gave up J.T. durley, you know, Gabe Blair, Clevin. We had all these great players that had really big hearts and wanted to win and we figured it out. And I remember that Saturday playing against Crayton and we won that game. So that was exciting.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: Started a three game winning streak and then about a month later when Northern Iowa came to Witchita, the shockers defeated them 69, 61. That was definitely a turning point. Who was your favorite Valley rival? What team did you really get excited to face?
[00:26:59] Speaker B: Man, you know, the Creighton game was always a big time game.
Just playing and playing in that arena, that was probably the biggest reign out we played thus far at that moment, you know, and just seeing them with the white out and just seeing us, you know, a team like that with Kyle Corbett having NBA players, I was kind of like caught up in that moment of like NBA players and what school they went to. So I would say Craig number one and definitely either Missouri State or Northern Iowa is number two.
We all had some great battles in that old school Missouri Valley.
[00:27:41] Speaker A: Yeah, let's do some Trey Murray trivia and we'll see how well you remember your shocker career.
What was your high point game as a shocker?
[00:27:49] Speaker B: My high point game was 24 against Temple in the Puerto Rico Classic.
[00:27:55] Speaker A: Also had 24 against Uni in 2012.
[00:27:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I tied that. So I had 24 twice that year.
[00:28:02] Speaker A: My senior year, that uni game, that's one I remember that was I would think would be one of your better all around games. That was a fine effort.
You made two buzzer beating shots to win games as a freshman in 2009. Who were those against?
[00:28:19] Speaker B: One was against Missouri State and the other one was against Evansville and that's it. And I had a lot of big time shots, but those were the two. Like go ahead. Game winning, you know.
[00:28:31] Speaker A: Yes, you got those right. WSU 51, Evansville 50 and WSU 62, Missouri State 61.
Which of your teammates made eight of nine three pointers in an 8970 win over UNLV your senior season?
[00:28:47] Speaker B: That's Joe Ragland. We actually just talking about that this past summer.
Joe's an unbelievable teammate. Still playing, still playing at a high level. And I told him he's one of the first guys that ever had 30 points within my four year career. So I was really excited him having such big games that my senior year. And he shot the ball really well. He's a great player for us.
[00:29:13] Speaker A: Well, he did, he had a great offensive senior year and yeah, Greg Marshall's system was so, so balanced that you know you didn't have many 30 point games. He had one of the, one of the rare runs ones and that was a. I think he had 31 that night. That was a fabulous performance. Okay, this is a really good list.
Which one of these players you faced as a shocker was the toughest assignment. Kemba Walker. Klay Thompson, KAWHI Leonard, Doug McDermott.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: You know, I can't really put Doug McDermott in there because he was, he was a little bigger than me so he was more like a four man.
But Doug was a really great player for Creighton and he always had a great game. He was really a tough guard. But if I could replace, if I could replace a Doug McDermott with an Andrew Godlock, that would make more sense to me.
[00:30:09] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:30:10] Speaker B: Andrew Garlic was probably one of the best players I guarded in my Whole career.
Him and Kimball were probably the two elite guards probably in my college career that I had to guard.
It's actually funny, this past season I seen Klay Thompson in warmups and he came up to me and he kind of. I was working out with K.J. martin at the time. He was doing some ball handling. He came up to KJ and was like, hey, this is a hell of a coach. This is the only coach that I know in my career because, you know, a lot of guys don't know that was his last collegiate game before he went to the NBA.
[00:30:47] Speaker A: Right.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: He had one of the worst games ever in his college career. And that was his last college career. So when he see my face, he gets spooked out. So when he saw me working with the Sixers, he kind of came up and gave me, you know, some love and was like, hey, this guy, he's a great coach.
He locked me up my last collegiate game. I'll never forget it.
So that was a little inside joke that we had. But Klay Thompson was a great guard. He was a 20 point scorer in college. So to hold him to.
I forget what he had, maybe like six points, maybe.
[00:31:22] Speaker A: I've got the box score right here. And this was to remind people semifinals of the nit. And he got in foul trouble and just did not have a good game. 1 for 10 from the field, 0 for 5 from 3 point range, ended up with, with 6 points. And the Shockers really rolled the cougars that night, 75 to 44 in Madison Square Garden.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: Yeah, so if you, if you really look at. I know foul trouble is part of the game, but Clay really, really had a hard time getting up any shots. He never had a guard that guarded him like that. He was a 20 point scorer again, like I said. So for him to have one for 10 night was, you know, somebody was playing some really great defense on him.
[00:32:03] Speaker A: No question. That's quite a list. And Andrew Gadlock, that's a good, that's a good pull of a name of a name. So he would have played against the shockers in the NIT in 2011 for the College of Charleston. Came here and really put on a shooting exhibition.
[00:32:19] Speaker B: Yeah, he, he was great. He, he was an NBA player.
I, I knew it, I knew it. Watching film moment. I knew he was really good and he'll be in the league. So that was a fun matchup with him. And for him to still go out there and get 30 on me, he's one of the best to do it.
[00:32:37] Speaker A: He was, yeah, he was shooting from, if not the logo, close to the logo. That was quite the show. And I'll be clear, we're not questioning Doug McDermott's talents. You just didn't guard him a whole lot because he played.
[00:32:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't guard him, but if I was 6, 8, he definitely wouldn't have had 30. He had 30. He had 30 on JT and Gabe.
[00:32:57] Speaker A: Ben Smith guarded him a lot in those meetings. And you would have gotten Doug when he was a freshman and a sophomore. He did not have a lot of success against the Shockers as a freshman and sophomore, but he definitely was a great player. And his junior year was. He had some. Some really nice games. What is your advice for a high school athlete who is getting serious about basketball? Starting to look at colleges, what, what should be on their checklist of things?
[00:33:24] Speaker B: The first piece of advice I would give them is if you really want to be a master at this game, you have to be a good person all around. You have to be somebody that they can trust and invest their whole organization, money, whatever they want to invest in. Because it's more than just basketball. It's really a way of life. You know, just doing the right thing, going to class, being a standup role model, being somebody that's not getting in trouble, not being a knucklehead.
And that's just the first piece of advice that I would give a young athlete, because it's extremely important in today's time because you got so many distractions. So, you know, if you really want to love the game, you do anything to be great at the game. So to me, being a good person and going, you know, doing the right things is step one for me.
Because with those other things, if you don't do it, it's going to distract basketball. And you can't. You can't play the game. You can't get better because you got so many other things that you got to deal with, and it's going to keep you off the court. And there's some kid that's really doing the right thing, doing everything to be great.
He's going to do it 10 times out of 10. And I think that's the first step, just being a great person. And second piece of advice is continue to work on your game and be a student of the game. Really find yourself, find your way of how you play the game, your uniqueness of how you can be great at the game.
And, you know, that's. That's just a journey that you have to find, you know, in basketball.
But those, those two things is just this essential. Just being a great person, being a role model and being a great person.
[00:35:24] Speaker A: Don't be a knucklehead. That's. That's good, good advice. Good way to get started. Tre Murray played Wichita State all valley performer from 2008 to 2012. He is now a player development coach for the Philadelphia 76ers. Tara, thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it.
[00:35:39] Speaker B: I appreciate it. Paul, man, you've been in this game for so long. You've been one of the heartbeats of Shaka basketball. So I just want to say I really appreciate you and it's really fun talking to you, man.
[00:35:53] Speaker A: Thank you very much. Nice of you to say.
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